Why do you keep trying to deflect rather than acknowledge that I was right to point out that the belief that vaccines are required for good health is false?
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Replying to @jeremyrhammond @kath2cats
Because that is an idiotic thing to say. You are flaunting the fact that your family benefits from herd immunity. I cannot fathom being that selfish.
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Replying to @drbrignall @kath2cats
It is idiotic to describe as "idiotic" my having corrected those who were of the false belief that vaccines are required for good health.
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Replying to @jeremyrhammond @kath2cats
Talking to you is about as productive as trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. You are the only one who is saying this bullshit strawman argument. Kath and I are saying that free riders are breaking our prevention programs. Risk / benefit is shifting.
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Replying to @drbrignall @kath2cats
Now you're deflecting again. Why don't you just acknowledge that I was right to correct those who were expressing their false belief that vaccines are required for good health? Why is that so hard for you?
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Replying to @jeremyrhammond @kath2cats
You may in fact be the most frustrating person I've ever met. There are people who are healthy who are unvaccinated. I'll see one at my clinic today, possibly. But when measles or polio comes to town, they are at greater risk, and as children, they didn't consent to it.
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Replying to @drbrignall @kath2cats
Actually, when measles comes to town, your infant and older adult patients will be at higher risk BECAUSE OF mass vaccination, as I've tried to educate you about, but which you refuse to learn.
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Actually, that's total nonsense. You're misapplying an idea - those who do get measles now are those, by definition, who are more at risk. However the MAJORITY of the at-risk population is safe BECAUSE OF mass vaccination
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You're mistaken. Far from "nonsense", the phenomenon I've just described is acknowledged by leading experts in the field in the scientific literature.
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How dare you cite the leading experts in vaccine science when you have spent the last two weeks trying to tear down their credibility?
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Somewhat. He's just taking a single sentence from a 1994 paper that doesn't really support his argument and misapplying it in what I can only assume is mostly ignorance of the literature as a whole
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Replying to @GidMK @drbrignall and
It's funny, because the argument "the measles death/cases ratio is higher now than in the 1970s" is arguable, but not entirely incorrect. The extrapolation to "that means that elderly and infants are MORE AT RISK" is just totally wrong and laughable
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Replying to @GidMK @drbrignall and
The number of elderly/infants who die now from measles per year is a tiny fraction (<1.5%) of the number in the 70s, but the PROPORTION is slightly higher due to mass vaccination so he's arguing that they are more likely to die due to vaccines
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