I'm REALLY tired of science fans blaming those who fall for woo for their "stupidity." I have fibromyalgia. I sure as shit would try acupuncture, dry needling or STABBING MYSELF IN THE SHOULDER if I ever stayed in the state of desperation that I've fortunately kept at bay.
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Replying to @ksenapathy
Agreed. I always try to make it clear that the practitioners are to blame, never the patients. You can't blame someone for trying a treatment that a person in a position of trust has told them is effective, even if it's totally worthless in reality
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Replying to @GidMK @ksenapathy
Who gets to define "totally worthless"? Who gets to define "effective"? Might be best to re-examine what "reality" is too. Pretty sure it's the same science fans.
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Replying to @kenjaques @ksenapathy
In order: - anyone who has enough expertise to read and understand the evidence for/against the treatment - patients - this is a colloquialism, arguing semantics is tedious
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Take homeopathy, for example. No good evidence that it helps for any medical condition at all, using metrics defined by patients such as quality of life, disease state, and similar
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Replying to @GidMK @ksenapathy
Interesting example. Yet may be safer than alternatives when risks and benefits of alternatives are considered. Placebo effect may outweigh risk of side effects.
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Replying to @kenjaques @ksenapathy
That makes no sense. The benefit, if any, could be duplicated with non-homeopathic water which is vastly cheaper. Or plain flour. The benefit of homeopathy itself, using patient-defined measures like quality of life, is precisely equal to drinking tap water
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Replying to @GidMK @ksenapathy
Appreciate your opinion. And patients having success with homeopathy, regardless of interpretations of science, probably wouldn't. Maybe drinking tap water is also less risky than some of the alternatives.
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Replying to @kenjaques @ksenapathy
The evidence can't speak to individual experience. What it can do is demonstrate that any benefits are likely not due to homeopathy. And yes, doing nothing often carries fewer risks of side-effects than doing something, but also no benefits
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Replying to @GidMK @ksenapathy
Understood. "Not likely". But not really sure. No benefit? I think you're concluding that placebo effect has no value?
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Let me put it this way: it is more likely that all human disease is caused by a heretofore unrecognized alien spaceship orbiting earth than that homeopathy is the cause of improvement in the symptoms of people who use it
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Replying to @GidMK @ksenapathy
Your opinions are always good for a chuckle. Thanks for keeping the humour.
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SO YOU ARE SAYING IT’S ALIENS??? =p
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