Right, but the tweet itself was misleading to those of us living in the US, when the Herbalife products sold here are not manufactured in the same place.
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Replying to @TrainWithBain @IKnowNutrition
Disagree there, while the products may be safer in the US, I think it should be up to HerbaLife to actively prove this given the research above rather than going on the assumption that they are safe as this appears to be not the case
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Replying to @GidMK @IKnowNutrition
The article is titled "in India." The content of the article talks about where the supplements were made and sold. I'm NOT arguing that ANY supplement they make is safe. I am arguing that it is illogical to assume that products made/sold in the US are hazardous solely...1/2
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on the basis that products made/sold elsewhere are hazardous. Is there evidence they use the same suppliers, techniques, machinery that processed identical other (non-H) products? We should be requiring 3rd party testing in the US anyway, but DSHEA is broken. 2/2
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Replying to @TrainWithBain @IKnowNutrition
Surely we'd want to err on the side of caution and assume that they manufacture the products in similar places? It doesn't make sense to me that we'd automatically assume that the US production chain prevents these issues when we know that it is flawed already
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Replying to @GidMK @IKnowNutrition
Why would I assume that products sold in India are manufactured in the same location as the ones sold in the US? I DID NOT ASSUME THE US PRODUCTION CHAIN PREVENTS ISSUES. I explicitly indicated it did not. Please do not invent arguments for me that I did not make.
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Replying to @TrainWithBain @IKnowNutrition
I don't understand your argument then, apologies. My understanding was that you were arguing that, because this study was conducted in India, the problems weren't necessarily translatable to the US. I'm not sure I agree with that argument
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Replying to @GidMK @IKnowNutrition
Yes. That's flawed logic. (It's known as a "hasty generalization" but also qualifies as an appeal to probability.) That's my only argument.
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Replying to @TrainWithBain @IKnowNutrition
I'd argue that there's not sufficient evidence to conclude that the products in the US are safe, given the known issues with product testing, and that the onus should be on HerbaLife to demonstrate safety based on these results from overseas
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Replying to @GidMK @IKnowNutrition
I made NO argument about whether any of these products are safe, anywhere in the world. I made NO argument about whether proof of safety should be required. Stop already. (The DSHEA doesn't require proof that they are to sell them in the US--I'd start by changing DSHEA...)
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You said that it is illogical to assume that the products sold in the US are hazardous based on evidence that products sold elsewhere are hazardous. I do not agree with that, as I've outlined above
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Replying to @GidMK @IKnowNutrition
You may disagree, but it is still not a logical conclusion. Your opinion about these products--and my opinion, which I haven't actually stated--is one thing, the rules of logic are another. Now can everyone please stop mansplaning and/or putting words in my mouth?
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Replying to @TrainWithBain @IKnowNutrition
It is entirely logical. Without evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to believe that the supply/production chain is not similar for different countries, especially considering the lack of efficacy in product testing globally
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