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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      Let's not get into that part lol, it really riles me up what gates is doing. So when we know that live vaccines can shed, and we still use them in the mmr although attenuated, why is there nothing done after to ensure no shedding when it is known to be possible. I see a flaw

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Because, as I said, different vaccines are very different. The OPV sheds, and that's actually one of the things that makes it so effective. There's no evidence that the MMR sheds, because the attenuation is different btwn different diseases

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    3. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      Rubella has the chance for 7-28 days.

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      There are a few reported cases of shedding specifically into breast milk, but it's an extremely low risk unless you're currently lactating. Since we mostly vaccinate kids, not usually a problem

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @RoorWade and

      It's also something that doctors usually mention when they're vaccinating breastfeeding mothers, because they might want to take that into account before being vaccinated

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    6. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      I'm liking this conversation and so far can agree. There are cases of mm shedding but it's rare. However varicella shedding is not so rare. Why do we even have chicken pox vax, it was a fun week

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Mostly because it can be very disabling and occasionally deadly. Not every country vaccinates against varicella

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    8. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      But it's more dangerous to catch it as an adult. Since vaccines don't provide lifelong immunity (why there are boosters) it seems safer to catch it as a child and skip the vaccine

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      With 2 doses of the varicella vaccine, the lifelong risk of getting the disease drops to less than 1%, so not sure I see your argument

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    10. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      That's not possible to determine since it hasn't even been around 80 years...

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      We can estimate lifelong risk based on the number of people infected in a year in a population of vaccinated individuals, if you look at your individual chance of getting sick post vaccine it drops even further usually

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        2. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
          Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

          That's not possible to estimate a sixty-eighty year lifespan in a single year... Smoking used to be healthy, remember

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
          Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

          No, by the yearly rate for large groups of people. Anyway, you're getting hung up on the lifelong angle, your risk of getting chickenpox after 2 shots is extremely low as an adult

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