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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Mostly attenuation, depends on the vaccine. If we're going to go into the immunology, it gets incredibly complex and individual to specific vaccines, because the way that they are crafted can be quite different depending on the disease

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    2. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      Let's start here, can we agree there is a possibility of shedding with live virus vaccine? I'm trying to have an honest discussion and start from the same spot

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    3. TOᗰ ᗰᗩᒪᒪIᑎᔕOᑎ‏ @MallinsonT 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @GidMK and

      What do you mean by shedding? Do you viable active viruses? Or some RNA? And do you mean historically or with current vaccines?

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    4. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @MallinsonT @GidMK and

      I'm trying to have an honest discussion. Don't derail it. If you wish, start a new thread

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Those are all valid questions. I'd add another - why are you concerned about viral shedding? What does this have to do with known vaccine risks in terms of modern vaccines?

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    6. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      As the opv indisputably proves, live virus vaccines can and do shed.

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Fact. It's why we usually don't give the OPV in countries where the risk of polio is low, like the US, UK and Australia

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    8. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      Let's not get into that part lol, it really riles me up what gates is doing. So when we know that live vaccines can shed, and we still use them in the mmr although attenuated, why is there nothing done after to ensure no shedding when it is known to be possible. I see a flaw

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      Because, as I said, different vaccines are very different. The OPV sheds, and that's actually one of the things that makes it so effective. There's no evidence that the MMR sheds, because the attenuation is different btwn different diseases

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    10. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

      Rubella has the chance for 7-28 days.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
      Replying to @RoorWade @MallinsonT and

      There are a few reported cases of shedding specifically into breast milk, but it's an extremely low risk unless you're currently lactating. Since we mostly vaccinate kids, not usually a problem

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 17 Apr 2019
          Replying to @GidMK @RoorWade and

          It's also something that doctors usually mention when they're vaccinating breastfeeding mothers, because they might want to take that into account before being vaccinated

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        3. RoorWade‏ @RoorWade 17 Apr 2019
          Replying to @GidMK @MallinsonT and

          I'm liking this conversation and so far can agree. There are cases of mm shedding but it's rare. However varicella shedding is not so rare. Why do we even have chicken pox vax, it was a fun week

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