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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Mar 2019

      Maybe there are a million factors you can never measure, and never control for, and thus it's really hard to know if this is causal or not Maybe

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Mar 2019

      So the authors are cautious. They know that there's a decent chance that the heat of your tea has nothing to do with risk of esophageal cancer But the newspaper needs a story And so we get "hot tea causes cancer"pic.twitter.com/g6kancVrKs

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Mar 2019

      So, let's recap: Large epi study showed 0.34% absolute increase in risk of cancer associated with drinking the hottest tea compared to cold tea, in large amounts, every day for 10 years Reverse causality and residual confounding remain an issue

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 20 Mar 2019

      Do we trust these results? Well, yes. The study was interesting, and well done Do we think hot tea = cancer?

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    5. Alan Watson‏ @Alan_Watson_ 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @GidMK

      Your enthusiasm to dismiss the research is notable but there is a reasonably comprehensive body of evidence, to which this research has added, showing that hot drinks do increase cancers. As there is no real benefit from very hot drinks why take the risk? http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-research-on-hot-tea-and-oesophageal-cancer/ …

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @Alan_Watson_

      What an odd response. There are a number of criticisms of the media attention of research above, it's a bit insulting to call that dismissive and a bit hypocritical - although I'm sure not intended - to dismiss it all yourself

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    7. Alan Watson‏ @Alan_Watson_ 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @GidMK

      You dismiss it, inter alia, by your conclusion poll offering only options contrary to the conclusions of the research. How do I dismiss it? I simply note, as a matter of fact, the study does not reach those conclusions in isolation & suggest "better safe than sorry" in that light

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @Alan_Watson_

      You're putting words in my mouth. Please point to where I said the authors of the study itself - as opposed to the Daily Mail piece - were anything other than appropriately cautious given the relative difficulty in determining causation using this methodology

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    9. Alan Watson‏ @Alan_Watson_ 22 Mar 2019
      Replying to @GidMK

      Objectively the @MailOnline reporting was (perhaps unusually!) closer to the scientific consensus represented by IARC - that hot drinks "probably cause cancer of the oesophagus in humans" - than your final poll which denies that option even as a choice:pic.twitter.com/cbLbHNLW7L

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    10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Mar 2019
      Replying to @Alan_Watson_ @MailOnline

      Ah, I see the issue herepic.twitter.com/yVe0K6ZNKh

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Mar 2019
      Replying to @GidMK @Alan_Watson_ @MailOnline

      To be precisely accurate, I would say that, based on the literature to date, there is likely an association between very hot beverages and esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, however the causality in this relationship has not been fully elucidated and confounding factors exist

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Mar 2019
          Replying to @GidMK @Alan_Watson_ @MailOnline

          While it is possible that very hot drinks cause cancer, it is currently not unlikely that a third factor, perhaps pollution-induced esophageal damage, is confounding the relationship

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Mar 2019
          Replying to @GidMK @Alan_Watson_ @MailOnline

          Furthermore, given the minimal absolute risk difference observed from drinking even very large amounts of very hot tea - up to 2 litres a day! - it is incredibly misleading to characterize this as a risk to individuals. If anything, it is only meaningful at a very high level

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