JCEM systematic review with same findings- https://tinyurl.com/y379rvzz
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Replying to @ella_corrick @GidMK
I think there are important conversations to be had about trans inclusivity and interesting science to explore physical changes a/w hormonal transitioning more, but claiming there's no evidence a male conformation skeleton stays that way is daft and undermines more valid points.
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Replying to @ella_corrick
And how does BMD directly impact athletic performance in a way that can be considered unfair? Do you know of any studies comparing trans women with cis women on this or another point?
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Replying to @GidMK
Given we know men have multifactorial advantage over women in sports, I would argue the evidential burden is at least equally on showing that all of those advantages are lost by trans women, rather than the reverse. Null hypothesis and all that.
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Replying to @GidMK
My point was the null hypothesis can be phrased in either 'direction' as it were. Given we know there is advantage being physically male it would seem reasonable to look for evidence that advantage disappears with transition not (just) evidence that it doesn't.
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Replying to @ella_corrick
But that's not the question we're asking. We want to know whether trans athletes have and/or retain a competitive advantage. The null would be that they don't, and there's currently no reason to discard that position
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Replying to @GidMK
FWIW IMO the question is broader than physical advantage. Trans inclusivity matters and fairness isn't clear cut w differences in sexual development, intersex athletes, lots of complexity. But it does TRAs no favours to imply it's 'phobic to say there's v likely bio advantage.
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Replying to @ella_corrick
I made no claims to phobia, my statement was in reference to evidence
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Replying to @GidMK
Yes, with a mocking note as if it's absurd to suggest there are common sense reasons to anticipate a competitive advantage. It is difficult to produce evidence pelvic angle/lung volume doesn't change w transition as no one has measured it, but I suspect you agree that it doesn't.
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But we don't discriminate based on common sense, surely? At one point it was considered common sense that men were better at maths, for example
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