I can see where @KevinH_PhD is coming from. I think it was @GidMK and others (including @WeDietitians ) who put together some figures around cooking at home including the cost of everything.
However, if we are willing to learn and be passionate about cooking, we are better off
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Replying to @SoSBega @KevinH_PhD and
I'd like to see those figures put up against the cost of fast/prepared foods. It's not even close. You give me the receipt of someone w/cart of crap from WM Superstore, & I'll go back in & turn that into 3X the meals. We need to work on helping people make better choices.
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Replying to @CarbSane @KevinH_PhD and
But is that because you have the skills, time and knowledge to do all the cooking? And what will your time cost? I agree more people need to learn how to choose the freshest food options, and to then cook such ingredients but how do we do it is the bigger question.
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Yoni and Kevin are not wrong IMO What about the stuff you need to cook, that has costs too. Utensils, equipment, electricity, housing (to put it all in), storage (fridges and freezers), transportation (to get to grocery stores), access to ingredients (food desert?), and then time
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Replying to @DylanMacKayPhD @SoSBega and
Not only are they wrong, but this absurd infantilizing of even greater swathes of the populace is solving nothing. The poor historically do not have problems with obesity and diabetes. This is a public-policy created problem.pic.twitter.com/WsfaL8MG1P
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I'm not sure about historically, but in the city I live in there is a strong correlation between an areas average income and the incidence of diabetes, not a positive one
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Replying to @DylanMacKayPhD @CarbSane and
The initial social determinants work was done in the 70s and 80s and demonstrated strong relationships between poor health and SES. The relationship differs on GDP though, in very poor countries the poor are undernourished and starve instead
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Replying to @GidMK @DylanMacKayPhD and
>> in very poor countries the poor are undernourished and starve instead<< So decades of social engineering & worrying about "enough" & no stigma (seriously we can't NOT subsidize junk foods!) have resulted in this. Too much, mostly junk. Yet nobody can cook.
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Replying to @CarbSane @DylanMacKayPhD and
"Social engineering" sounds like a conspiracy theory what exactly do you mean?
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Replying to @GidMK @DylanMacKayPhD and
Whatever programs have been put in place to prevent the impoverished from being undernourished have long since backfired. No conspiracy. Just policies (e.g. we cannot let anyone know Johnny needs the free lunch, people on food stamps are entitled to "enjoy" the same choice).
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What an odd thing to say. As if government policies were behind obesity, instead of aimed at combating it
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Replying to @GidMK @DylanMacKayPhD and
You are not very familiar with nutrition research then. It is deeply rooted in getting enough (malnutrition, deficiencies) and is ill suited to excesses of the modern world. The WAY we ensure nobody goes hungry is directly impacting obesity's higher prevalence in the poor.
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