I guarantee you they will have tried multiple "diets", probably extreme, probably unsupervised & will have already had idea around thin ideal, internalisation & body dissatisfaction This is medically supervised & has a plethora of outcomes to pick any ED up 2/3
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Replying to @BrownAdey @JimJohnsonSci and
& offers an opportunity for a child who's struggled all their life to possibly lose weight. We know wt loss improves QoL & previous study in adolescents showed improvement in QoL after VLED. I believe this trial could make a difference to select group of adolescents.
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Replying to @BrownAdey @JimJohnsonSci and
Of course they have tried diets - it's likely some will already have DE as v high in this group (note DE isn't "fixed" by extreme diets and will likely have health effects). We also know that any weight lost will most likely be regained. Makes zero sense.
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Replying to @HelenlouWest @BrownAdey and
You also can't fix internalised stigma and body shame by dieting.
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Replying to @HelenlouWest @JimJohnsonSci and
My point is not about fixing it, it’s about it already being there, this is what the screening questionnaires are designed to trigger, if there are concerns, individuals are excluded! I did this in my research, pt safety is imperative!
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Replying to @BrownAdey @JimJohnsonSci and
But you have had professionals share evidence that the harms of these interventions may not be picked up until much later. We know this intervention is highly unlikely to "fix" their weight. Its not going to help them fix their DE. Have you read the pilot study?
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Replying to @HelenlouWest @JimJohnsonSci and
But there is no proof that this intervention is the cause? What if it’s from a previous unsupervised attempt started the 27month countdown! I do appreciate what’s being said, but supervised wt loss is better than unsupervised & if ED picked up, pt will be triaged for treatment!
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Replying to @BrownAdey @JimJohnsonSci and
It may cause ED/DE. If ppl have DE it won't fix DE. It will cause short term weight loss (if they are able to put up with the hunger and deal with psychological pressure of not eating). They will probably (IMO almost certainly) regain the weight they lose.
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Replying to @HelenlouWest @BrownAdey and
But given that DE and ED are secondary endpoints for the trial, surely it's important simply for the question of psychological harm? If the trial is stopped early due to
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Replying to @GidMK @BrownAdey and
I disagree with this stance. They are children. Not stats or lab rats. We don't have the right to put them at risk in the pursuit of knowledge.
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But you've identified yourself that there's a lack of knowledge here. Without running a trial, we're guessing either way
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Replying to @GidMK @BrownAdey and
I don't think we are guessing. The objections come from what we know in adults + additional risks posed by growing kids - i'd say it's an evidence informed objection.
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Replying to @HelenlouWest @BrownAdey and
I'd argue that this study is dissimilar in that there is tight oversight of the included children which will hopefully minimize/obviate those risks
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