I mean, you can read whatever you want into them but I'm honestly interested to know how you reconcile the obvious contradiction in your stance
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Replying to @GidMK @drjasonfung
In order to get a good answer you need to ask a good question. Insulin helps fat cells take in energy. Low insulin allows fat cells to release the fat inside. Check pictures of type 1 diabetics before insulin therapy existed. They had no fat. No insulin means no fat storage.
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Replying to @PeterFaberSP @drjasonfung
Well, either weight gain is all about insulin or it isn't. If it is, it should be in every situation-even starvation Otherwise, it's more complex than you want it to be
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Replying to @PeterFaberSP @drjasonfung
But we're not talking about keeping insulin low. We're talking about eating nothing at all and taking large amounts of insulin. If calories have nothing to do with weight gain, presumably you wouldn't lose weight
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Replying to @GidMK @drjasonfung
You are talking about that, and I'm tired of this. Muted.
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Replying to @PeterFaberSP @drjasonfung
I'm still waiting for an answer. Seems a fairly easy thing to explain, if your model is correct
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Insulin is not a nutrient. It directs nutrients into storage. That’s the model. I hope that answers your question.
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Yes I guess it does. That would seem to invalidate the basic argument that insulin = weight gain by definition, as hyperinsulinaemia is a necessary but not sufficient precondition for weight gain
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I don’t think anyone has argued that insulin can contribute to weight gain in the absence of nutrients. However, from a biological standpoint, hyperinsulinemia meets the definitions of being necessary (our work; others) and sufficient (insulin clinical) in standard contexts.
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Hmmmm but surely the hypothesis should hold in all situations? Otherwise presumably by definition it is more complex than hyperinsulinaemia causing weight gain
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The hypothesis that is tested is a multipart framework. Diet/lifestyle acting via hyperinsulinemia promotes fat deposition, insulin resistance and eventually type 2 diabetes. You can’t just drop the first part or you are left with a strawman.
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Mmmm but then how do you separate the diet/lifestyle out from the hyperinsulinaemia? Seems like a chicken/egg problem is built in
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