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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      There's really not that much more to it. Study is here:https://www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/7/4/89 …pic.twitter.com/ewVssnYlxb

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      There were 10 essential oils that, when poured over bacteria in a petri dish, killed a bunch of them From this, we get the ridiculous headline

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      Remember, only 8% of products that are tested in vivo (living organisms i.e. rodent studies) make it to a clinical treatment The rate for in vitro studies like this is even lower

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      So, potentially, one or MAYBE two of these will result in a treatment Even then, it's worth remembering that the treatment might not work so well in actual people

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    5. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      When you read about people doing things to cells in a jar, it's important to note that this is totally different from doing it to actual people in the real world XKCD put it very wellpic.twitter.com/KOps0Gu6gk

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      All of that aside, this study is still very problematic because of it's relationship with Lyme disease/Chronic Lyme It was funded by 3 organisations that appear to support the idea of chronic Lyme infectionspic.twitter.com/jg0FcxrUfo

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      The study author also appears to explicitly endorse the idea that Lyme infection persists in the body long-termpic.twitter.com/e5cLprFJ8N

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      Now, there is quite a bit of debate about Post-Treatment Lyme Disorder/Syndrome (PTLD/S), but there is little genuine question about "Chronic Lyme"

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      In short, Chronic Lyme does not appear to be a true health issue. There is likely a post-treatment disorder that Lyme causes, but there is no active infection behind this @skepticalraptor covers it very well here:http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/chronic-lyme-disease-scientific-evidence-supporting/ …

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    10. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      So even if these essential oils were effective at killing Lyme bacteria, the purpose that they are being tested for is very much questionable

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

      Anyway, maybe some essential oils are better at killing Lyme cells in petri dishes than antibiotics But then, so is bleach. And FIRE

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        2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 3 Dec 2018

          The real test is in vitro studies in animals, then actual clinical research in human beings Until then, I'm going to label this "almost certainly nonsense"

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 4 Dec 2018

          Blog on this study now uphttps://medium.com/the-method/essential-oils-cant-treat-lyme-disease-ae94d404147d …

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        1. Changed‏ @Q_State_Fun 3 Dec 2018
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          Yeah, that's a weird argument. "Petri dish/ blood stream close enough."

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        2. Sentient Quantum Fluctuations l ⧖‏ @QuantumHawk666 4 Dec 2018
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          #xkcdpic.twitter.com/hHiVCE2rKd

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        3. Sentient Quantum Fluctuations l ⧖‏ @QuantumHawk666 4 Dec 2018
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          Ah, just saw you'd already been there 😳

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