I mean, as far as correlating systemic inflammation with individual foods I think it's unlikely you could do a better job, and they confirmed the associations in this study as well. I don't think the accusation of "garbage" is fair at all
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Replying to @GidMK
If the context is epidemiological, then I agree you could hardly do a better job.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore
That seems like a very poor argument. The original research was clinical. It seems you are just belittling epidemiology, which isn't particularly logical
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Replying to @GidMK
It's not that I'm belittling epidemiology, it's just not useful for that job. If you want to understand the effects of individual foods, you need to isolate them from each other and from other lifestyle choice factors.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @GidMK
Meat cannot itself be inflammatory. It only takes a few counterexamples to defeat that hypothesis, and we have those. My own hsCRP was last measured as below the lowest range of the test (0.3mg/L) on a plant-free diet. This is a typical anecdotal finding on plant-free diets.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @GidMK
So any finding of increased hsCRP from increased meat eating must be only a signal of meat eating being associated with other inflammatory behaviour in the population. It doesn't transfer out of context. It can't be used to guide choices.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore
Or inflammation is, as I said, more complex than you can easily link to individual foods Also, anecdotes are a wonderful starting point for research but useless in determining the correct answer
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Replying to @GidMK @KetoCarnivore
I'm sure you can see the enormous issue with arguing that "meat cannot be linked to inflammation" by using anecdotes that are subject to innumerable biases, in particular survivorship bias
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Replying to @GidMK
Anecdotes are useless for proving positive hypotheses, but serve perfectly well as counterexamples to disprove hypotheses of the general type "meat is inflammatory". You now have to argue that I'm a special snowflake if you want to claim that.
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Replying to @KetoCarnivore @GidMK
I would never say something as silly as "meat cannot be *linked* to inflammation". What I'm saying is the link is spurious.
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Apologies, I misquoted you. The statement "meat itself cannot be inflammatory" should've been there
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