You led with "moderate drinking isn't good for you". If your point was this study didn't show that, fine. But the headline implies that no studies show that, which is false.
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Replying to @sib313
Nope, you should totally read more of the thread and linked blog, a number of studies have shown this
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Replying to @GidMK
And you should read more David Spiegalhalter who has criticised the way headlines are generated from alcohol studies. Eg: https://understandinguncertainty.org/misleading-conclusions-alcohol-protection-study …
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Replying to @sib313
I mean, I argue similarly that headlines are mostly garbage. There's no good reason to believe that alcohol is protective, and every reason to believe that it is harmful regardless of the dose
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Replying to @GidMK
But that isn’t what the collective evidence says despite much effort to prove otherwise. Believe what you want but don’t deny the evidence.
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Replying to @sib313
Generally speaking, the more rigorous the control for confounding, the more attenuated the positive correlation btwn alcohol and outcomes becomes. The few controlled trials on the subject have seen the opposite result. Given that it is biologically unlikely...
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...that alcohol is providing a benefit, and there are known, direct causal pathways between alcohol and harm, it is reasonable to conclude that even moderate intakes of alcohol are harmful. This has also been shown in a number of epidemiological studies...
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...such as this one, from NZ, where the association appeared significantly protective but was entirely mitigated through controlling for social confounders: https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/article-abstract/doi/10.1093/geronb/gbw152/2645642/The-Health-Benefits-of-Moderate-Drinking-in-Older?redirectedFrom=fulltext …
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@GidMK is spot on here. Studies indicating health benefits of mod drinking are in fact poorly controlled analyses. They show that rich people drink moderately and can afford better nutrition and healthy lifestyles; not that drinking is healthy.1 reply 4 retweets 10 likes -
Replying to @AndyTowersNZ @GidMK
I disagree. That hypothesis has never been solidly shown to explain the major pattern observed in the relationship between drinking and health. It is been possible that we overestimate the harms by doing this adjustment badly.
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Except, you know, in the study published above, which was authored by the person you're lecturing Man I love twitter
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Replying to @GidMK @AndyTowersNZ
When you have convinced all the other experts their studies are poorly controlled analyses, then I'll have to shut up. I don't have to concede, yet, in an area where there is a lot of disagreement.
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Replying to @sib313 @AndyTowersNZ
That's just an appeal to authority. Not even a particularly good one
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