...such as this one, from NZ, where the association appeared significantly protective but was entirely mitigated through controlling for social confounders: https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/article-abstract/doi/10.1093/geronb/gbw152/2645642/The-Health-Benefits-of-Moderate-Drinking-in-Older?redirectedFrom=fulltext …
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I am not denying the evidence, merely pointing out that there is good reason to believe that the common interpretation - moderate drinking is beneficial - runs counter to a significant body of evidence as well as biological plausibility
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What this proves is that your initial assumptions (alcohol is harmful) dominate the way you interpret evidence from the literature. Also that the literature if full of contradicting results.
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Hardly. There are enormous bodies of evidence on the harms of alcohol. There is no debate whatsoever that large quantities are harmful. The question is whether a subclinical level of consumption over long time periods is problematic
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Are you implying that alcohol is risk-free? Because that is a truly astounding assertion
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No, too much alcohol clearly isn't risk free. As with anything: the dose makes the poison. But there is a legitimate debate about the level where drinking becomes a problem.
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And the UK government has been selective in using literature evidence to justify their recommendations and policies which is bad science and leads to advice that lacks credibility.
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Well, I'm not the UK government, nor live in the UK, but from what I can tell they've largely correctly analysed the issues with most epidemiological studies on drinking and come to fairly reasonable conclusions generally
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The last UK guidance was challenged by respected statisticians for failing to be honest and exaggerating the evidence of risk, so I disagree.
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Cool. I trust the public health people from the NHS, they are mostly extremely good at their jobs
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Except then they misrepresent data to get the result they want as they have on minimal alcohol pricing and the Sheffield Model.
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