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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Aug 2018
      Replying to @sib313

      Generally speaking, the more rigorous the control for confounding, the more attenuated the positive correlation btwn alcohol and outcomes becomes. The few controlled trials on the subject have seen the opposite result. Given that it is biologically unlikely...

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Aug 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @sib313

      ...that alcohol is providing a benefit, and there are known, direct causal pathways between alcohol and harm, it is reasonable to conclude that even moderate intakes of alcohol are harmful. This has also been shown in a number of epidemiological studies...

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    3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Aug 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @sib313

      ...such as this one, from NZ, where the association appeared significantly protective but was entirely mitigated through controlling for social confounders: https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/article-abstract/doi/10.1093/geronb/gbw152/2645642/The-Health-Benefits-of-Moderate-Drinking-in-Older?redirectedFrom=fulltext …

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 22 Aug 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @sib313

      I am not denying the evidence, merely pointing out that there is good reason to believe that the common interpretation - moderate drinking is beneficial - runs counter to a significant body of evidence as well as biological plausibility

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    5. 𒊓𒅂𒁓𒐗𒐕𒐗 Steve the skeptic‏ @sib313 23 Aug 2018
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      What this proves is that your initial assumptions (alcohol is harmful) dominate the way you interpret evidence from the literature. Also that the literature if full of contradicting results.

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    6. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @sib313

      Hardly. There are enormous bodies of evidence on the harms of alcohol. There is no debate whatsoever that large quantities are harmful. The question is whether a subclinical level of consumption over long time periods is problematic

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    7. 𒊓𒅂𒁓𒐗𒐕𒐗 Steve the skeptic‏ @sib313 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @GidMK

      Which is where we disagree.

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    8. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @sib313

      Are you implying that alcohol is risk-free? Because that is a truly astounding assertion

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    9. 𒊓𒅂𒁓𒐗𒐕𒐗 Steve the skeptic‏ @sib313 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @GidMK

      No, too much alcohol clearly isn't risk free. As with anything: the dose makes the poison. But there is a legitimate debate about the level where drinking becomes a problem.

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    10. 𒊓𒅂𒁓𒐗𒐕𒐗 Steve the skeptic‏ @sib313 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @sib313 @GidMK

      And the UK government has been selective in using literature evidence to justify their recommendations and policies which is bad science and leads to advice that lacks credibility.

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 23 Aug 2018
      Replying to @sib313

      Well, I'm not the UK government, nor live in the UK, but from what I can tell they've largely correctly analysed the issues with most epidemiological studies on drinking and come to fairly reasonable conclusions generally

      3:30 PM - 23 Aug 2018
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        2. 𒊓𒅂𒁓𒐗𒐕𒐗 Steve the skeptic‏ @sib313 24 Aug 2018
          Replying to @GidMK

          The last UK guidance was challenged by respected statisticians for failing to be honest and exaggerating the evidence of risk, so I disagree.

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 24 Aug 2018
          Replying to @sib313

          Cool. I trust the public health people from the NHS, they are mostly extremely good at their jobs

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