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Epidemiologist. Writer (Guardian, Observer etc). "Well known research trouble-maker". PhDing at @UoW Host of @senscipod Email gidmk.healthnerd@gmail.com he/him

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    1. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      But, as I've said, there are many sources of bias. Excluding one based on "it's not rocket science" doesn't really make sense Also, I imagine there are many Level A industry-funded studies. That's pretty much the point I'm making here

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    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      In fact, I'd imagine that guidelines based only on A and B evidence would be far more weighted towards industry, because these RCTs are expensive and often run by industry bodies

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    3. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

      And I’m simply asking for the evidence - we can keep hypothesizing - I’m saying - if we are going to use ADG, please, just have a look. Really don’t know why as an epi person you are putting up barriers?

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    4. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      Because your argument for why we should exclude an entire category of research is, as far as I can tell, "it's not rocket science/because we can" That's not great methodology, if so. If I'm wrong, please tell me how

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    5. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

      I invite you to look back through our thread. You are pulling out you’re easy wins there. If you were sitting on an NHMRC panel as an epi to discuss how to robust evidence base for ADG ....would you really say “we don’t need to do sensitivity analysis on GRADE, or corp$”

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    6. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @GidMK @foodnuthealth

      I have posed reasonable research questions specific to understanding how we can do better. This is not a methodological conversation, this is a “how can we lift Aus out of this FRCD trajectory”. Corp$ are recognized to influence the narrative. We have a data set to look at this

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    7. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      In what possible way is this not methodological? You're making a specific methodological argument - that we should exclude all industry funded trials from analyses

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    8. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

      Ive posed a research question. Next step is to choose a methodology to best answer the question. Methodology second. You are opposing the question.

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    9. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      What?? Your argument is that the current methodology is wrong. Rephrasing that doesn't change anything...

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    10. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

      Maybe check back through - I’ve asked we use the methodology (sub-standard as I think it is) bc we have this data set there to run a series of sensitivity analyses. One of which is “if we took our all industry funded research what does that look like”

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      Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

      Right. But there's no justification - that I can see - for such a project, aside from "industry is bad, duh". So it seems to me that, if the methodology used was evidence-based, the analysis you're proposing would not add to the evidence base

      8:35 PM - 7 Jun 2018
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        2. Food Nut‏ @foodnuthealth 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @WeDietitians

          Was the methodology evidence-based, in your expert opinion as an epidemiologist?

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @foodnuthealth @WeDietitians

          Definitely. The NHMRC has done a lot of work to provide good recommendations on reviews such as these, and I think the academics were eminently qualified.

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        2. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

          We Dietitians Retweeted We Dietitians

          You've not answered though - Is GRADE C evidence enough to make food recommendations for an entire population? PShttps://twitter.com/WeDietitians/status/1004573763759833088 …

          We Dietitians added,

          We Dietitians @WeDietitians
          Replying to @WeDietitians @GidMK
          "Telling people what to eat" based on one type of science (biomedical) is recognised as a mismatch with real life....to remove the most obvious bias, and the bias most public would want removed is a public service to health.
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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

          Yes, because it was off-topic and I've already answered that question. But, ok. Yes. Definitely. Most public health interventions are based on Grade C evidence - smoking legislation, seatbelts, some vaccines etc - it's often not possible/ethical to run RCTs on every question!

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        2. We Dietitians‏ @WeDietitians 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @GidMK @foodnuthealth

          Tweeting from train to "healthsville"... methodology - SR&MA was not under dispute at all here. In fact, I'd said, SR&MA IS equipped to run sensitivity analysis to answer the question "what would the ADG look like if we removed industry-funded research"?

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        3. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 7 Jun 2018
          Replying to @WeDietitians @foodnuthealth

          And, as I've said, you've offered no scientific justification for that question. Why not just use the current guidelines?

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