They discriminated against the people. They make cakes for weddings & refused to make a wedding cake. There was nothing different about this cake except who was buying it. This whole argument is nonsense.
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They would sell them a plain cake, so no. Should these bakers have been forced not to discriminate?http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service-watch-shocking-video/ …
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Funny how religious freedom always seems to mean the right to discriminate.
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#MasterpieceCakeshop wins, next time the bigot bakers will refuse to sell a birthday cake for the child of the gay couple because their religion doesn't believe gay people should be "allowed" to parent kids. Legal discrimination permits such abuse.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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The 2006 SCOTUS decision in Rumsfeld addressed compelled speech. Bottom line: conduct is not speech and can be regulated. So if refusal to bake a cake is deemed conduct, then baker likely loses. If it's speech, then perhaps a win.
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How about performance art or dance? Can they be compelled to make custom performances against their values?
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So what if the cake says nothing and is just a cake?
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What if it was just your classic tiered cake w/pretty flowers? The facts in this case: the couple was shut out at the get-go - they didn't even get to the design phase. I can see objecting to a specific DESIGN but objecting to serve specific CUSTOMERS seems pretty cut-and-dried.
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Aside: the couple got married in MA (SS marriage wasn't legal in CO). Thus, cake was meant for a local fest that was already steps away from original ceremony. So can the baker cite his religion for shunning couple in all biz, forever? Refuse a birthday cake for their child?
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Those are poor compelled speech hypotheticals because they haven't and won't occur. Question is whether you have to bake the same cake for a gay couple as you bake for everyone else. There is no parade of horribles here.
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These are analogies to help the audience ponder some logical conclusions of the argument. It's not useful to reply that they wouldn't occur.
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