Have you read Lisa Feldman Barrett's book How Emotions Are Made? It is the best book I've read about emotions, and the first chapter debunks studies that say emotions are culturally universalhttps://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/ …
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Replying to @strangeattracto
I have. It's useful and interesting, but I find a lot of it as a bit suspish but more importantly I think she's making a very nonstandard distinction between emotions and feelings and then getting mad when other people use words differently than she does.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @strangeattracto
And I mean yes it's obviously true that emotions are culturally determined and there are looping constructs around this, but there are still feelings people experience that can usefully be described with emotion words.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
So how do you reconcile the "felt sense that you are predisposed towards a particular class of actions or attitude towards the world" with the constructivist culturally-influenced view of emotions?
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Replying to @strangeattracto
I think this is just how words work? Suppose I'm painting a picture. There is a set of behaviours, skills, and actions, and motivations, I'm doing, and those all interrelate, but the fact that I'm "doing art" is very much a culturally determined set of practices and labels.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @strangeattracto
The idea of a "looping effect" (I keep thinking it's called "looping construt", sorry) is super useful. There's a kind of feedback loop between experience and labelling, for basically any kind of experience and any kind of labelling, and I think that's what emotion words do.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @strangeattracto
But the feelings of being predisposed to an action are there regardless of what we label them, they're just also shaped by those labels.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @strangeattracto
The book is making two arguments in this space: 1. The specific labelling of emotional states has a strong impact on the experience of those states. 2. The word "emotion" applies specifically to out labels of those states. I think (1) is definitely true and (2) is nonsense.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @strangeattracto
Because that requires us to take emotion statements about non-linguistic entities as category errors. "The dog is afraid" is obviously a perfectly sensible statement, but Barrett's use of the word emotion does not consider that as valid because the dog cannot label that state.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
I'll think more about the "dog is afraid" example. That's a good one.
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I think I got that example from someone else but I can't remember who if so.
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