maybe the name isn't super great I practice it as basically "take deep breaths and hold to the edge of comfort/discomfort", I don't really count
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Replying to @visakanv @almostnora
Interesting. The edge of discomfort is about thirty seconds for me (sixty when I'm in practice, peak of 120 when I'm *really* in practice), which seems a lot longer than is being recommended.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @almostnora
might be using a different discomfort threshold, I mean like when it stops feeling effortless
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yes, yes
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Hmm, yeah, though you don't achieve long breath holds with effort. It's more like relaxing into it. You can't "do" breath holding, you really do have to stop doing the thing that prevents you from holding your breath.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @m_ashcroft and
Forcing yourself to hold your breath for longer is the sign that you're about to fail. The actual process is more like "Hmm I notice that I want to breathe. Do I actually need to breathe or am I OK? I'm OK I think, so I'll just relax and enjoy myself. I can always breathe later."
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @m_ashcroft and
I should probably try this framing the next time I do breath hold exercises.
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Replying to @shrinetothevine @m_ashcroft and
The key part is basically to relax. If you tense up then your body starts going "I'm using muscles so I need oxygen now!!!" and it's all over.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @m_ashcroft and
Yeah I always have problems relaxing into a hold near the end. I typically get about 60s if I don't hyperventilate as a warmup (like with Wim Hof). Although there's this interesting phenomena I noticed if I do relax past the I really need to breathe, I clock another 30secs easy
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Replying to @shrinetothevine @m_ashcroft and
Try three candle breaths instead of hyperventilating first. Deep breath in, rapid exhale out, repeat three times then on the fourth breath in hold.
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(As I understand it, which may be fake science) hyperventilating increases your oxygen usage subsequently, and all you really want to do anyway is lower your CO2 levels (which are what triggers the need to breath reaction, not a shortage of oxygen)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @shrinetothevine and
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did some reading about this a while ago – I'm not super-confident but my sense is that you're broadly correct except for some nitpicking about "lower CO2 levels" – it's complicated bc of the exchange processhttps://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1219518655970459649 …
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Replying to @visakanv @shrinetothevine and
Yeah my understanding wasn't that lower CO2 levels are *good* exactly, it's that high CO2 levels in your blood are what the body uses as its "oh shit need to breathe" trigger.
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