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    1. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Nov 3
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      GeniesLoki Retweeted DM me your insecurities

      OK. Lets do a little thread about this. So, to start with, I'm not actually super into non-coercion. Mostly because I think I'm already mostly OK at it - my life has for years been almost entirely free of negative self talk, and I tend to pursue my whims and interest freely.https://twitter.com/mattgoldenberg/status/1323821247847911425 …

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      This is so delicious. More "being non-coercive involves allowing yourself to be coercion" content please.
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    2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Nov 4
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      Hmm... what's your definition of non-coercion, here? I read you as saying something like negative self-talk or maybe negative emotions in general being coercion, but in my model they're only coercion if they *dominate* your decision-making and don't allow other perspectives.

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    3. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Nov 4
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      So if you say that "negative self-talk can be good, as long as it can be relied to stop when it gets too bad", then that counts as using non-coercive motivation to me, since you are cooperating with the self-talk rather than being coerced by it.

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    4. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Nov 4
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      I don't really have a working definition of non-coercion, but the negative self-talk that worked for me consisted of me basically shouting at myself to stop being lazy and do some fucking work, which certainly felt a bit coercive?

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      GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Nov 4
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      I was pushing myself into something I didn't want to do by using forceful emotions. The level of coercion was bounded in that I would stop if it were truly harmful, but it was definitely an overriding of internal motivational structure.

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        2. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Nov 4
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          But honestly I feel like the lack of working definition is part of the problem. Every time someone points out that actually coercion can be good, noncoercion twitter is like "But that's not coercion!!!", but you sure wouldn't know they didn't think it was coercion from advocacy.

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        3. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Nov 4
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          Yeah I'm not convinced that everyone means the same thing when they say "coercion", my definition is something like "one part influencing the mind in such a way that other parts don't get a fair say".

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