How do you decide moral dilemmas?
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Replying to @VectorOfBasis
Hard work, skill, and sometimes accepting a moral remainder.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Please unpack this a bit!
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Replying to @VectorOfBasis
moral remainder = you do the right thing and suffer the consequences (guilt, shame, etc). e.g. one resolution to the trolley problem is that you do the one that kills fewer people and then carry guilt around for the rest of your life. Ideally don't do this too often.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @VectorOfBasis
Hard work and skill: Most moral dilemmas are just practical problems that you've not thought about hard enough, and the dilemma is a false binary choice between two options where the correct solution is to talk more and figure out something better.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @VectorOfBasis
Like in the trolley problem you should definitely attempt to communicate with both the trolley driver and an ambulance before anything else has happened - seems much more useful than pulling a lever or not!!
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Replying to @Kirsten3531 @GeniesLoki
Yeah, the trolley problem is oversimplified and contorted - and yet can be useful. For example take a self-driving car. Should the car risk the passengers to save a group of pedestarians? Do changes in age of passengers & pedestarians affect the decision? (e.g. save children?)
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Replying to @VectorOfBasis @Kirsten3531
No. Bad Vector. *slaps wrist* https://robots.law.miami.edu/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/MoralMachineMonster.pdf …
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
Lol im reading the paper and it's annoying
of course any "social value" measure is going to be imperfect
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The point of the paper is that "the costs" are significantly greater than the sum of the individual costs. Also this isn't the point of the paper, but I often find it interesting how cost/benefit analyses elide who is getting the benefits and who is paying the costs.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
somehow you write this so much more clearly than they do in the paper
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haha okay they do write it later on this I can agree withpic.twitter.com/3lNDGwj6pZ
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