alright, that might've been too vague, gonna do it by name, sorry if i miscategorize you! @maybegray @Virtual1nstinct @limitoftruth @GlitchesBrew @BellaRudd1 @rmbalt @GeniesLoki @averykimball maybe even @PYeerk or @erin_nerung?
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Replying to @Gaploser @maybegray and
i seriously recommend not poisoning your brain with Scott Alexander words
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Replying to @erin_nerung @Gaploser and
if something can poison your brain just with words it's good writing (assuming you're not stoopid); so is scott bad, or is he harmful? can't be both
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Replying to @chernobylski @erin_nerung and
Counterpoint: if this is the case why does everyone have a Hogwarts house? (I am not as negative about SSC as Erin but I'd still hesitate to recommend his work without a lot more context TBH)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @chernobylski and
I guess to add to this: I put SSC in the same category as a lot of woo. He is worth reading and trying to extract value from, but the process is intrinsically a slightly adversarial one and taking him too seriously is worse than not reading him.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @chernobylski and
Reading him is a net positive if you're able to cleanly separate the good bits from the bad bits, but he isn't going to do that for you (because he can't), and I'd rather people not take on either than take on both.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @chernobylski and
What do you think the bad bits are?
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Replying to @nosilverv @chernobylski and
He's very confident of his position and he's very big on "principle of charity" as a talking point but he's not actually very good at being charitable to competing worldviews. Most blatant example is that basically every time feminism comes up you need to salt the post liberally.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @nosilverv and
My impression was that his relationship with feminism is largely shaped by that thing where you criticize your own side more than the opponent's and don't bother to explain all the ways in which it's good because they feel so obvious to you. So then he comes off as anti-feminist.
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Replying to @xuenay @nosilverv and
Hmm no that doesn't feel right. I agree he's not actually sexist/misogynistic/etc. I don't think he's a bad person or anything. I do think he's not engaging well with some of the ways other people are also trying to do good.
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My impression in general is that he's not on side with feminism because he has had bad experiences with some feminists and it makes it very hard for him to engage with feminist ideas in a non-adversarial way, despite probably being broadly on the same side in what he wants.
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