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GeniesLoki Retweeted Kirsten

Would recommend reading the replies to this if you think any of these things is uncomplicatedly bad and past membership is a black mark against someone. (Kirsten is not saying they are/it is, but a lot of people replying are).https://twitter.com/Kirsten3531/status/1316129208729563136 …

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Out of: -gamergate -4chan -pick up artists How many of these have you been involved with?

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Subthreads of note:https://twitter.com/captain_mrs/status/1316274575601213440 …

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Yeah, 2 for me. Spent a long time on /b/ until I found tumblr, and on redpill until I found Less Wrong. I had a strong sense that "what I was being told about myself" around sexuality and attraction was wrong, but didn't have the tools to break out of that myself

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So, yeah, you're going to get a bunch of people who are smart but also hang out on the darker parts of the internet. (Side note: I'm a "zero" voter, but my impression is 4chan is a more complicated place than people give credit for and PUA less uniformly bad than it's painted)

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For the record I've not been a member of any of these, but you probably wouldn't like the tone of some of the IRC channels and forums I hung out on as a kid either (most of them were fine).

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Sometimes the sort of community and social support that is needed by people who don't fit in won't be all shiny and nice like you want it to be. I'm not going to claim any of these things are *good*, but they all have good elements that were positively life-changing for some.

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Ultimately you've got to accept that one of the following is true: 1. You're going to have to include "problematic" people in your community in order to help them learn to socialise. 2. People will form communities you don't like in order to support their needs.

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It's kinda the community version ofhttps://twitter.com/vandeRede/status/1315447863409741824 …

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Modernity can be defined as that state of affairs wherein an intelligent young man does not have the world explained to him by either family or schools, and so must instead pirate pdfs off Russian websites

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If you demand perfection from a bunch of people who haven't learned to socially function yet, you're not actually helping them get better, you're just asking them to go away and die quietly somewhere they won't bother you.

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Have you come across @HealthyGamerGG ? He is really addressing these issues, but from a place of compassion, no judgement. Huge communities on twitch and discord - it's weird seeing gamer communities basically discussing feminism but he makes it work

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Come across and have vaguely positive impressions of but haven't really looked into in detail for a variety of reasons. Glad he exists and is doing this though!

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