GeniesLoki

It's super tangential to what you were saying. I agree and disagree? Infantilization meaning-- people doing things for you because they think you're too weak to do them is a good example. A lot of other men I know call that a "privilege" but it's fucking condescending to me.

I'm sure you'll be able to find some examples of female privilege that don't fall into this category.

Some go to examples for me: * Hetero dating norms around "men approach women" * Men are typically very touched starve * Safety in expressing emotions (especially ones that will be perceived as scary)

Counterpoints *These same hetero dating norms are based on assumptions like "women don't make the kind of money needed to cover a date," and many are the product of capitalism *none *Women are not "allowed" to express "male emotions" like anger in this social paradigm either

* I don't think this is a counterpoint? Yes, problems exist for reasons. Although I also don't think I agree with this as the reason (I've heard this a lot and it never reverses when the woman makes more money than the man) * OK * Very context-dependent, but often false!

Maybe it's the difference in our social milieus, but seriously I've met more women who are beyond that dating money bullshit than not. I'm probably superimposing my own complete bafflement at the whole thing over my memories. It's never made sense to me.

I do think the money thing is a red herring. It's really a norm over who makes the first move, not over who pays, and it seems to get replicated in a lot of circles.

Online dating is a particular sore point for this I think. People talk about how bad women's experience of online dating is because of unwanted attention but out of almost everyone I've talked to, women's experience of online dating sounds kinda annoying and men's soul crushing