Cannot tell whether agreeing or disagreeing. Could you unpack?
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
It's super tangential to what you were saying. I agree and disagree? Infantilization meaning-- people doing things for you because they think you're too weak to do them is a good example. A lot of other men I know call that a "privilege" but it's fucking condescending to me.
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Replying to @owenfuckem
Yeah. I definitely wouldn't count that as an example of female privilege, although I think it might be an example where men and women are stuck on opposite ends of a spectrum both ends of which suck? (I think such examples are quite common)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @owenfuckem
Like the male end of this problem is being treated as if it was unreasonable to want other people to do things for you because you're supposed to be strong enough to do them on your own. This is also bad.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Absolutely! As an AFAB man, tho, I have experienced the former and let me tell you...wait I already did lol My point is that just because it looks like a privilege, doesn't mean it is. Plenty of women do not wish to be treated as though they cannot do things, too!
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Replying to @owenfuckem
I think this is normal for privilege though, right? A lot of privileges come with a downside. In the technical sense privilege is less about straight-up advantage and more about classes of problems that you don't have to worry about.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Hmm. Do you think the undersocialization and lack of support for men's mental health as compared to women's, counts? I was gonna say yes, but then remembered the pathologization of women's issues is a thing, and women are generally expected to bear more social burdens, so idk.
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Replying to @owenfuckem @GeniesLoki
this is where I say all gender roles are bad
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Replying to @owenfuckem
I'm certainly not going to disagree, but I still need tools to navigate the world until we get rid of them!
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That's OK! It's been an interesting discussion.
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