GeniesLoki

"I'm sorry you're hurting but that's not the same as structural oppression" is a hell of a thing to say to a group of people who share a common set of traits that cause them to be systematically shunned and demonised because they've not learned to cope with things society demands

Feminism really does have a problem with systematically rejecting the places where the theory naturally could and should be extended to men, and the way it treats groups like this who have male-coded problems (and are also majority but not exclusively men) really brings it out.

If you don't believe me try saying "female privilege" to your average feminist and see how they react. Privilege is a really useful framework for looking at a bunch of problems that men face that women don't. It's perfectly possible for both male and female privilege to exist.

"female privilege" to trans men is more like... "structural oppression" again oops Infantilization is not privilege

Cannot tell whether agreeing or disagreeing. Could you unpack?

It's super tangential to what you were saying. I agree and disagree? Infantilization meaning-- people doing things for you because they think you're too weak to do them is a good example. A lot of other men I know call that a "privilege" but it's fucking condescending to me.

Yeah. I definitely wouldn't count that as an example of female privilege, although I think it might be an example where men and women are stuck on opposite ends of a spectrum both ends of which suck? (I think such examples are quite common)

I mean, I see it as another example of how patriarchy hurts everybody, even if it looks like it benefits women.