I talked about The Scott Aaronson Incident in https://twitter.com/GeniesLoki/status/1316123830721671169 … Honestly I didn't care about 95% of the backlash it was very business as normal the response that enraged me the most was the supposedly empathetic one.
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"I'm sorry you're hurting but that's not the same as structural oppression" is a hell of a thing to say to a group of people who share a common set of traits that cause them to be systematically shunned and demonised because they've not learned to cope with things society demands
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Feminism really does have a problem with systematically rejecting the places where the theory naturally could and should be extended to men, and the way it treats groups like this who have male-coded problems (and are also majority but not exclusively men) really brings it out.
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If you don't believe me try saying "female privilege" to your average feminist and see how they react. Privilege is a really useful framework for looking at a bunch of problems that men face that women don't. It's perfectly possible for both male and female privilege to exist.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
"female privilege" to trans men is more like... "structural oppression" again oops Infantilization is not privilege
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Replying to @owenfuckem
Cannot tell whether agreeing or disagreeing. Could you unpack?
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
It's super tangential to what you were saying. I agree and disagree? Infantilization meaning-- people doing things for you because they think you're too weak to do them is a good example. A lot of other men I know call that a "privilege" but it's fucking condescending to me.
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Replying to @owenfuckem
Yeah. I definitely wouldn't count that as an example of female privilege, although I think it might be an example where men and women are stuck on opposite ends of a spectrum both ends of which suck? (I think such examples are quite common)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @owenfuckem
Like the male end of this problem is being treated as if it was unreasonable to want other people to do things for you because you're supposed to be strong enough to do them on your own. This is also bad.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Absolutely! As an AFAB man, tho, I have experienced the former and let me tell you...wait I already did lol My point is that just because it looks like a privilege, doesn't mean it is. Plenty of women do not wish to be treated as though they cannot do things, too!
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I think this is normal for privilege though, right? A lot of privileges come with a downside. In the technical sense privilege is less about straight-up advantage and more about classes of problems that you don't have to worry about.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Hmm. Do you think the undersocialization and lack of support for men's mental health as compared to women's, counts? I was gonna say yes, but then remembered the pathologization of women's issues is a thing, and women are generally expected to bear more social burdens, so idk.
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Replying to @owenfuckem @GeniesLoki
this is where I say all gender roles are bad
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