How many of these communities have you been personally involved with? Poll in the next tweethttps://twitter.com/Tipsycaek/status/1316123134408364032 …
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Out of: -gamergate -4chan -pick up artists How many of these have you been involved with?
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Replying to @Kirsten3531
These numbers are about what I'd have expected to be honest. I think LW-rationalism has always had a strong norm of "If you're willing to have interesting conversations with us and mostly not be an asshole about it, we're happy to have you".
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
This is why they've got a reputation as being a hotbed of various unsavoury politics, because actually they mostly don't hold those views but they also tend not to exclude people with them.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
So, yeah, you're going to get a bunch of people who are smart but also hang out on the darker parts of the internet. (Side note: I'm a "zero" voter, but my impression is 4chan is a more complicated place than people give credit for and PUA less uniformly bad than it's painted)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
IIRC there's also some complicated history where the original gamergate guy (I forget his name) was friends with a bunch of people in the community, but I don't really know the story there I just have vague memories of there being something of that shape.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
None of which is to suggest that those places don't deserve their reputations. I'm pretty sure they do. But I wouldn't necessarily conclude that because someone was a part of them in some sense that made them personally bad. Especially if it was when they were a lot younger.
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Trying to follow up on my memory of the gamergate link lead me to https://arcdigital.media/almost-everything-you-know-about-gamergate-is-wrong-c4a50a3515fb … which is interesting. (I don't necessarily endorse the claims of this article - some of it tracks the ways in which I was vaguely aware shit was complicated but I don't know about the rest)
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