People have no idea what "socialism" or "fake news" mean, but no one tells me off for using those terms. But I feel like in this corner of Twitter people are sensitive to feminist terms, to the point they'd rather I not use them b/c they could be misunderstood. Is that accurate?
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Replying to @Kirsten3531
I don't mind you using them and often use them myself, but I can probably explain the dynamic a bit of why people might be a bit sensitive about them if you'd like?
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Replying to @Kirsten3531
First: I don't think "because they might be misunderstood" points at the problem well. I think there are much more specific negative associations people have with the use of feminist terminology.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
Where the problem is lack of precision, I think it's not that people are worried about misunderstanding so much as that that lack of precision is deliberate. This is what people mean when they say motte and bailey: A narrow defensible usage and a broad implied usage.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
The broad implied usage is one that I think has caused a lot of problems for some people, many of whom are in this corner of Twitter. It's not a great thing to be immersed in if you're a socially awkward man with a propensity to take things very seriously/literally.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
At a personal level, I've *definitely* had a lot of emotional problems associated with internalising "men are bad" discourse, so I very much get why people are a bit sensitive to anything that seems a bit too much like that.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
The other big problem is that, particularly on the internet, I think people (especially men, but in general) are used to a lot of feminism and SJ stuff being basically used to shut down discussion and argument. "You must agree with this or you're a bad person" rhetoric.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
This is a corner of the internet where people *really* like discussion and argument and want to be able to challenge you on your ideas - not because they disagree, but because that's how you engage with an idea to understand it better.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
Signalling that you hold norms which will treat that as illegitimate is going to get people to regard you with a lot of caution.
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Generally speaking I think most people here will be fine with feminist terminology *if* you're prepared to engage with them on these sorts of terms and possibly define what you mean more precisely if it comes to that, but they might be prickly until they know you'll do that.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
GeniesLoki Retweeted Kirsten
I guess to add a bit more explicitly given the examples in https://twitter.com/Kirsten3531/status/1316118870466461697 … A lot of why people are going to be sensitive to many of these is that they've been attacked using many or all of these terms, so they've got negative emotional associations.
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