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    1. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 25
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      What if the reason why women do most of the emotional labour is that we don't count it as emotional labour when men do it? (I was surprisingly reluctant to tweet this even on alt)

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    2. lisatomic‏ @lisatomic5 Aug 27
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      I’m not familiar with formal definitions of emotional labor, but there’s a distinction in that we do pay people to do the labor that women are expected to do for free (“a free therapist”). I’m not sure equating emotional *labor* with any expected gendered performance makes sense.

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    3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 27
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      Well, nobody's familiar with the formal definition of emotional labour, or it wouldn't get used the way it is. The way "emotional labour" tends to get used is closer to what was called "emotional work" in the original context, where labour is the paid version (cont).

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    4. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 27
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      Emotional work in the original sense is work done specifically to manage your own emotions, to ensure that they're "right" for the particular context. I think there's a major element of that in the "free therapist" problem but that's not all that's going on there.

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    5. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 27
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      The typical examples of emotional labour in the original sense are things like how airline staff are expected to constantly be helpful and friendly - it's part of their job to project the right emotions.

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    6. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 27
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      As a side note, I'm somewhat sceptical of the idea that it's only women who do the "free therapist" thing and think this is a thing where most couples help each other process emotions and it's more acceptable for women to complain when it's disproportionate (which it often is).

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    7. ian hines‏ @imhinesmi Aug 27
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      men complain too, but the standard thing for men when their so needs therapy is to leave

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    8. ian hines‏ @imhinesmi Aug 27
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      hmm i have "women do more therapy dor their partners then men" as a cached Truth but no examples and multiple counterexamples

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    9. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 27
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      Replying to @imhinesmi @lisatomic5

      I definitely have examples of it going both ways in my social circles, but my social circles are so weird I don't know how that translates to society writ large.

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    10. delysis‏ @delysis Oct 9
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      I would love to see data on this. This is not a complaint, but it’s been my observation that the women I know rely on others for therapy (paid and free) far more than the men. But, like you, my friends are weirdos, so who knows? Still, I’d be surprised if it didn’t generalize.

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      GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Oct 9
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      I think the core of the complaint is that women rely on others for therapy (paid and free) far more than the men but that a key part of that is that when men do it they spread it around a lot less so end up relying on one individual person more than the women do.

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        2. delysis‏ @delysis Oct 9
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          Agreed. I’m annoyed that I used the ‘free therapy’ label. Hill I’ll die on: friends aren’t free therapists, therapists are paid surrogate friends. I wouldn’t ban prostitution/therapy/pro cuddling/etc., but find the increasing commodification of care a sad and ominous trend.

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        3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Oct 9
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          Well, yes. https://twitter.com/GeniesLoki/status/1311205033187454977 … Though I also don't think therapists are paid surrogate friends. I think the professional distance of a therapist has some benefits that it's hard to get out of a friend too. Neither friends nor therapists are substitutable for the other.

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          Stray thought: I wonder if people who object to being a free therapist for their partner also object to being a free sex worker.
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