Really important: in all cases, react to a mistake with grace. You have learned you didn't read the situation right. That doesn't necessarily mean you've done anything terrible, but it means you didn't get this one right.
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For what it's worth, my take is online compliments are definitely at lower risk of causing harm, but also lower benefit for both of you. Not a terrible place to practice (once you have the basics and are being thoughtful and considerate), but you could also start with friends.
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The basics of compliments on appearance: - err on side of only when solicited - things people chose > things they didn't - it will likely be taken differently from women than men
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Was this partly a response to our mini-chat yesterday, or a happy coincidence?
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Definitely in part! Feels like there's been a confluence of conversations. It was our interaction that helped me connect
@GeniesLoki's point about skill with preferences varying to frame what I said to you as "here's a datapoint, I am trusting you to update on it correctly."1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
If I start using this, I bet I'll really enjoy being able to speak confidently about my experience, while saying things I believe are true in general, without speaking for all women and thus stressing men out and getting women who differ from me less of what they want.
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Replying to @ChanaMessinger @GeniesLoki
This may work better in rationalist circles (since they believe in the power of data, updating priors etc.) than with random people on the street...
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With this framing, maybe, but I think everyone knows that people want different things and that if I don't like something, now they know more than they did before. I had a great chat with someone who catcalled me once and he said he understood better and wouldn't do it again!
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It may also be because you were brave enough to say something to him. Many people do inconsiderate things until someone is willing to call them out (even though they probably knew before that it wasn't good behaviour), at which point shame kicks in...
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I am really into responding to catcallers, advisable or not. Responses have included: yelling at them, cursing at them, loudly saying, "I don't like that" or "don't do that", asking them nicely to stop, stopping to have a conversation, using an airhorn.
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In one of my mutual support groups recently we were talking about good verbal ways of responding to inappropriate behaviour. My suggestion which I still quite like is to just get really good at saying "What are you DOING?" in a tone of mixed horror, disgust, and bafflement.
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(In context this was actually about men responding to inappropriate behaviour from women, which we felt there were fewer good scripts for, but I think it works more broadly)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @chrisgardenuk
I like it, but don't usually want to start a conversation or open the door for one in this specific case. I like it for bad internet compliments, though!
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