obligated to hang out with my dad for a bit today, but it was better than usual-- i actually came away a bit invigorated by some of the conversation ?? he gave some interesting accounts of his exposure to gay culture in the 70s +
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it's unclear whether his perspective reflects common attitudes at the time, but he seemed to think it does +
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so according to him, back in the 70s it was common for guys to toss around "faggot" as a generic insult the funny thing about it was that no one actually thought anyone else was gay +
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so one day he walks in on his roommate on a water bed with another man he wakes them up by jumping on the bed and yelling "hey faggots!!" but.... he didnt realize that they were *actually gay* +
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my dad and his friends just didnt think gay guys really existed even though they'd seen the glory holes at the local spot and then he moved to Florida +
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apparently a lot of his coworkers would joke around a lot about taking him to gay bars at one point another coworker told him that they were a bunch of-- well, have a guess what word he used-- and they were making fun of him +
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my dad: what? they're not f*****s. they're good guys (spoiler: they were definitely gay) +
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crazy that in his mind? their minds? being gay meant they couldnt be "good guys" +
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but interesting that what from the outside looked a lot like bigotry was just...obliviousness? my dad ended up friends with some of these f*****s, lost some of them to AIDs weird how that sounds like a plot twist
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(obviously i'm thinking "was everyone this oblivious though? is this an asperger's thing? not grasping the subtext + also not really getting why people care?)
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Growing up in the 80s and 90s this sort of vague obliviousness plus use of "gay" as a generic insult etc all without really getting that it was a real thing that real people were seems very familiar TBH. I was a pretty clueless kid, but feels like it was shared.
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