GeniesLoki

e.g. "You should listen to people's lived experiences if you want to understand them", "You're probably oblivious to problems faced by people whose identities you don't share", "Identities interact in complex ways that create their own unique problems"

This is all ideology. Men shouldn't hope to be 'finally understood' by women, or to have their 'lived experiences heard'- this is exactly the problem. If the search for masculine self-understanding takes feminism as its model, it's already based on the wrong premise

I don't really feel like relitigating this argument, sorry

Why not? I don't get exactly how you're going to get this 'masculinism' off the ground if you already have a designated set of arguments and view-points considered 'too offensive' to mention, even relatively mild one's like mine

Because I'm bored of having it and the polite thing to do when someone asks to disengage from arguing with you is to do that?

You're not going to get far if you just start sulking at the first sign of disagreement

I'm not sulking, I'm tired and not very interested in your thoughts, and you're really validating that right now.

I'm not trying to mean but everything abt this exchange confirms my original point to you. You can't even tell me to fuck off, just passive-aggressive sniping trying to get me to 'respect that you're tired' or whatever. I'm calling you out bro, it's unbecoming