There's a particularly unpleasant experience that it seems like most people who are (cis?) male feminist nerds have at least some of, which is that they've internalised the idea that their being attracted to women is in some sense morally bad.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
It's pernicious. I do not know if it's possible for male feminist nerds to escape this without losing feminism (as an ideology).
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Replying to @forshaper
I think it's possible, it's just fucking hard work because it requires you to: 1. Adopt an ideology that integrates feminism into a proper understanding of the male experience. 2. Get good at working with your emotions and dealing with clashes between explicit belief and feeling
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @forshaper
You can't adopt an ideology that integrates (liberal) feminism into a proper uderstanding of the male experience if (liberal) feminism fundamentally misunderstands the male experience to begin with
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Replying to @PYeerk @forshaper
I think you can. It requires discarding some of the wrong bits, but integrating the experiences of men into a feminism largely just requires taking feminist principles of seriously and applying them uniformly. This isn't always popular, but I think it's good.
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Replying to @forshaper @PYeerk
e.g. "You should listen to people's lived experiences if you want to understand them", "You're probably oblivious to problems faced by people whose identities you don't share", "Identities interact in complex ways that create their own unique problems"
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Like from a feminist point of view it's obvious* that unless you actually ask men about their experience you probably don't understand it. * yet widely ignored
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