Mansplaining is like talking to someone in French when you know they don't speak French - it's probably a dick move, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable for them to expect you to speak to them in English.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
FWIW, I had an almost opposite working definition of mansplaining? It seems more common that they are assuming you know much *less* than would be reasonable to assume, given the same contextual info.
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
I agree about the mismatch— it’s just that, IME, they’re assuming an embarrassingly *low* level of prior knowledge. It’s not that they use too much technical language (which is almost a compliment?) it’s that they explain what would be taken as shared by almost anyone else.
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
Ex: knowing you’ve done physics phd research, and still starting an explanation like “you see, there’s this field called *quantum mechanics* that says that energy comes in tiny pack—“

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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
the thing is, men are incentivized to talk like that because girls want it -- just on a topic that they truly don't understand. it only feels demeaning when they assume a prior level of knowledge that you actually have.
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physics phd girl wants a man who can mansplain her the latest advances in quantum field theory -- then she feels like she's got somewhere
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Replying to @jack_meditates @lisatomic5
I am unconvinced that this is true. I think most people of any gender want conversations they can participate in as equals (even if not in knowledge). The sort of protocol failure that is occurring during mansplaining doesn't lead to that even if it's genuinely novel information.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @lisatomic5
As a peer to peer work-y kind of frame, sure people want to be roughly equals. But as a sexual frame women want to be explained to. So the mansplain is an attempt to turn the social frame into a sexual frame.
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Replying to @jack_meditates @GeniesLoki
Hmm, I can imagine the sort of thing you’re pointing to, but I think something is off. I *do* want to date intelligent, competent, interesting men who *could* explain things to me, for sure. But that feels fundamentally different from “I want to be explained to.”
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
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yeah yeah my phrasing is a bit off but you do get the thing i am pointing tohttps://twitter.com/jack_meditates/status/1302139803031478272 …
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Yeah, I think I agree that a lot of mansplaining is an attempt to demonstrate competence as part of sexual interest, but my point is that I think if that's what they're doing then mansplaining and mansplaining-adjacent conversation is an example of fucking it up.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @lisatomic5
sure -- where i differ is that i think a strategy that looks like rude mansplaining in one scenario can actually work if the man is correctly calibrated to the ability of the woman.
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strategies don't survive memetically if they never have an upside -- evolutionary fitness yo
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