Everyone is wrong about mansplaining and it's very annoying. Mansplaining is a failure to negotiate a common conversation protocol, resulting in an annoying mismatch. This can be due to sexism but it isn't necessarily so.
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People talk about how mansplaining is just "how men talk to eachother" and this isn't true - mansplaining is what happens when you talk to someone in a particular male coded way that they are not prepared to engage with.
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Mansplaining is like talking to someone in French when you know they don't speak French - it's probably a dick move, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable for them to expect you to speak to them in English.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
FWIW, I had an almost opposite working definition of mansplaining? It seems more common that they are assuming you know much *less* than would be reasonable to assume, given the same contextual info.
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
I agree about the mismatch— it’s just that, IME, they’re assuming an embarrassingly *low* level of prior knowledge. It’s not that they use too much technical language (which is almost a compliment?) it’s that they explain what would be taken as shared by almost anyone else.
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
Ex: knowing you’ve done physics phd research, and still starting an explanation like “you see, there’s this field called *quantum mechanics* that says that energy comes in tiny pack—“

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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
the thing is, men are incentivized to talk like that because girls want it -- just on a topic that they truly don't understand. it only feels demeaning when they assume a prior level of knowledge that you actually have.
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Replying to @jack_meditates @GeniesLoki
Yeah, I can see that, and which is why I don’t judge anyone *too* harshly for this sort of miscalibration. But it reflects either a lack of social skill in this sort of calibration, *and/or* systematic bias toward assuming low knowledge.
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Replying to @lisatomic5 @GeniesLoki
Definitely can be an element of lack of social skill and bias towards assuming low knowledge. There's also the unconscious process of "well I'm into her but if she's way better than me I haven't got a chance anyways so I might as well bias towards assuming she knows little".
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Gosh that sounds like a terrible strategy. I can't imagine it working even if she knows less than you.
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In my (somewhat limited) experience almost everyone responds better to you if you treat them as having interesting things to teach you.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @lisatomic5
yeah of course. some element of idolization is flattering. i am just trying to simulate and explain to you the thought process of an average insecure man.
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