Everyone is wrong about mansplaining and it's very annoying. Mansplaining is a failure to negotiate a common conversation protocol, resulting in an annoying mismatch. This can be due to sexism but it isn't necessarily so.
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People talk about how mansplaining is just "how men talk to eachother" and this isn't true - mansplaining is what happens when you talk to someone in a particular male coded way that they are not prepared to engage with.
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Mansplaining is like talking to someone in French when you know they don't speak French - it's probably a dick move, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable for them to expect you to speak to them in English.
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When men talk to eachother in this way it's a conversation in a way that it's not when you end up doing it to someone who is not prepared to engage with it. It's not some deep sin, it's just being a bad conversationalist, but that can be for any number of reasons.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
I’d be down with this in a power vacuum but men are privileged in a way women aren’t. Even if mansplaining is ‘just how men talk’ it would still be sexist in this cultural context I think.
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Certainly I think there's an obligation to be a good conversationalist in many contexts but I think there's a wide variety of stable and useful conversation norms and insisting people always use your own rather than adapting to local ones is a doomed move.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @mykola
Also power is more complicated than that and "men always need to do things womens' way in any mixed group" is a nonstarter of a general solution.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
Does this change if you frame it in terms of accessibility? ‘Men have no obligation to make their comms intelligible to women’ feels icky and ableist kinda?
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Replying to @mykola
IDK do you think women have an obligation to make their conversation norms accessible to men?
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This isn't a situation where freely code switching is the easy option, and if you insist that all mixed gender communities adopt feminine norms this doesn't get you equality it gets you separatism
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