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    1. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      Everyone is wrong about mansplaining and it's very annoying. Mansplaining is a failure to negotiate a common conversation protocol, resulting in an annoying mismatch. This can be due to sexism but it isn't necessarily so.

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    2. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      People talk about how mansplaining is just "how men talk to eachother" and this isn't true - mansplaining is what happens when you talk to someone in a particular male coded way that they are not prepared to engage with.

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    3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      Mansplaining is like talking to someone in French when you know they don't speak French - it's probably a dick move, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable for them to expect you to speak to them in English.

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    4. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      When men talk to eachother in this way it's a conversation in a way that it's not when you end up doing it to someone who is not prepared to engage with it. It's not some deep sin, it's just being a bad conversationalist, but that can be for any number of reasons.

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    5. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola Sep 4
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      I’d be down with this in a power vacuum but men are privileged in a way women aren’t. Even if mansplaining is ‘just how men talk’ it would still be sexist in this cultural context I think.

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    6. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      Certainly I think there's an obligation to be a good conversationalist in many contexts but I think there's a wide variety of stable and useful conversation norms and insisting people always use your own rather than adapting to local ones is a doomed move.

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    7. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      Also power is more complicated than that and "men always need to do things womens' way in any mixed group" is a nonstarter of a general solution.

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    8. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola Sep 4
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      Does this change if you frame it in terms of accessibility? ‘Men have no obligation to make their comms intelligible to women’ feels icky and ableist kinda?

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      GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Sep 4
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      IDK do you think women have an obligation to make their conversation norms accessible to men?

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          This isn't a situation where freely code switching is the easy option, and if you insist that all mixed gender communities adopt feminine norms this doesn't get you equality it gets you separatism

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        2. a portrait of the autist as a 30-something‏ @mykola Sep 4
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          They generally do tho. Tons of studies on this. Women shrink themselves, perform submission, don’t ask questions, etc.

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          I do not think that is an example of making conversation norms accessible.

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        2. J0eCool‏ @CountJ0ecool Sep 4
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          This feels like a trick question (not intentionally) I perceive female conversational norms to promote accessibility as a core tenet So yes, but that's an internal obligation, not due to mixed gender conversation

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          Do you think insisting people talk to you in the mode you prefer that does not come naturally to them because you treat their preferred mode as illegitimate is an accessible move? Because that's what's currently being proposed here in the name of accessibility.

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