GeniesLoki

I consider myself feminist and have spent lots of time grappling with this, but no other feminist I've conversed with accepts it as a legitimate issue to consider.

Pretty much every time I talk about these sorts of issues on here I get at least a few new women (I haven't polled but I assume most/all of them would consider themselves feminists given the conversations) positively engaging with it.

Like I think fundamentally you can't actually think that men are emotionless husks if you actually know any men, which most people do. A lot of "Men are evil" talk seems to have huge cognitive dissonance with people's positive experiences of individual men.

So I think a lot of feminists actually find it quite helpful to hear the men's perspective in a way that helps them understand and engage with them.

It's the politics not the ideas, really, that are the barrier. Would be possible to, for example, set up such a department within a university or a civil society org - but it's hard doings in these times for various reasons.

Yeah. I'm assuming that any effective version of such a movement necessarily starts as grass roots on the internet and acquires academic respectability later.

Hahaha, love that it starts on the internet :P But yes, it needs to be won at many grassroots, and the internet is grassroots too now.

I'm struggling a bit with what specific topics would be discussed, as someone who's not an expert in feminist literature. I always assumed the "all men are evil" crowd were a small, extreme group within feminism...