People seem to really struggle to reason about the fact that the same person can be both privileged and oppressed without these things in any way cancelling out. If they're ingroup, people ignore that they're privileged, if they're outgroup people ignore that they're oppressed.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
You might not like it, but there is already a word for this - it is intersectionality.
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Replying to @pervexists69
There is, but people who claim to be intersectional feminists don't seem to struggle any less to reason about it.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @pervexists69
I have learned I can throw wrenches here by exclusively talking in feminist quotes. I suppose that goes for any ideal.
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Replying to @forshaper @GeniesLoki
I speak SJ well enough I can sometimes instill seeds of doubt in the naive and earnest and royally troll some bad faith actors.
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"The insistence that 'only white people can be racist' is a fundamentally infantilizing Eurocentric narrative that strips vast majorities of the world of history and agency. Insistence that only European genocides matter erases POC histories."
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Replying to @pervexists69 @forshaper
Honestly I try to avoid doing anything that comes across as trying to "win" in these conversations. This sort of thing too easily comes off as point scoring. I just try to explain problems and see who will have an open and honest conversation about it and avoid those who won't.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @forshaper
This is the correct approach, unfortunately I have a combative streak and disgust of hypocrisy that ensnares me sometimes. And I love a good deadpan trolling.
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I used to like it more, but then I got increasingly tired of and sad about the whole thing.
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