What if the reason why women do most of the emotional labour is that we don't count it as emotional labour when men do it? (I was surprisingly reluctant to tweet this even on alt)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
I’ve had similar thoughts, but struggled to come up with a lot of examples. Basically I came up with things that are defined as “courtesy” (asking about someone’s day, listening to someone without criticism or unwanted “fixing”) that may feel more like labor to men...
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I think being a source of stability and calm is the most central example of emotional labour typically done by men. A lot of men describe it as being the only one not allowed to fall apart in a crisis. Many men don't do this and many women do, of course, but it's skews male.
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GeniesLoki Retweeted GeniesLoki
This is kinda what I was getting at in https://twitter.com/GeniesLoki/status/1298198816001331200 … If yo look at typical feminine examples of emotional labour yeah 100% men do less of that. Male emotional labour is generally about not exhibiting emotion rather than exhibiting it.
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GeniesLoki @GeniesLokiThe basic problem is that doing emotional labour more or less requires performing gender roles, and performing feminine gender roles involve expressing emotion and performing masculine gender roles involves suppressing it. The former is much more visible than the latter.Show this thread2 replies 4 retweets 44 likes -
Replying to @GeniesLoki @DistractedAnna
Another example of male emotional labour is making women feel safe around them. e.g. an angry man is treated as intrinsically unsafe, so when men feel anger they have to do a lot of work to manage perception if they don't want to scare people. (Many men don't do this of course)
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @DistractedAnna
To be fair, men on average are more dangerous. People probably know this instinctually or can identify certain features in the face and physiology of a man who is stronger and a better fighter. People use heuristics for safety/survival, not that they’re w/o drawbacks
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Replying to @smarlitos_ @DistractedAnna
Note that I didn't say men shouldn't do this! It's very reasonable and mostly good that men do this. "Emotional labour" doesn't mean "bad", it means "work done to manage emotions".
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @DistractedAnna
True I just mean, people’s survival via avoiding angry men might be worth the suffering [angry] men experience or the work they have to do. It’s work cuz it’s tasking innit
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I’m not sure there’s a way to change this in ways that aren’t more harmful than good; the equilibrium is p shitty This, assuming men with features that are perceived to be and characteristic of ‘better fighters or less emotionally stable’ are indeed *biologically* ‘ ‘
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I think there's clearly something dysfunctional in how we handle male anger as a society, and I suspect over all it results in less safety because men end up bottling up anger until they either snap or decide that if they're going to be treated as unsafe anyway why bother trying?
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I'm not sure how to solve it, but I'm not sure the current equilibrium is actually very good at creating safety for anyone.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @DistractedAnna
Fair take Men bottling up emotions and not having healthy socialization spaces probably causes mass shootings and stuff But
those sorts of incidents probably have a lower death/trauma toll than the sum of instances of common dangerous men causing harm, but I’m spitballin here2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes - Show replies
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