Poly is a better system because it allows for much more freedom of movement while trying to figure things out and partial solutions where total solutions are unworkable. Monogamy and monogamy-like things are often closer to the ideal stable individual arrangement though.
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I kinda expect personally to never settle down into a fully monogamous-like relationship, partly because I started too late, partly because I 100% never intend to have kids which removes a major driver, and partly for situational reasons, but most people aren't like me.
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Also just because things have stabilised doesn't mean they stay stable. Even in long term stable relationships things can change in ways that mean flexibility becomes important again.
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But on the other hand poly is often just a lot more work and there are a lot of times in your life where you really want to focus time and energy on other things.
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I don't really have a conclusion I'm building to, I just think pluralism and flexibility are good and putting poly and monogamy in opposition to eachother rather than as points on a spectrum isn't doing either side any favours
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
I agree that putting them in opposition isn't normally helpful. Another ways it's unhelpful is that people are usually arguing against a strawman, which I think you and I have talked about before.
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Replying to @Kirsten3531 @GeniesLoki
I have a very dear friend who became poly because a boyfriend asked her point blank if she was attracted to other people and then got mad at her for it so she thought monogamists just weren't attached to other people?? I was like "no your boyfriend was just an idiot"
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Replying to @Kirsten3531 @GeniesLoki
Did her boyfriend find other women attractive? You make it sound like he claimed to be mono-sexual (os is that attraction to people with mono?). Seems unlikely he didn't, but some men are very insecure for some reason?
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Replying to @chrisgardenuk @Kirsten3531
I do think monogamy norms tend to exacerbate that insecurity because too many perfectly normal things start to seem like threats. Although honestly there are a lot of insecure poly men too so it's far from *caused* by monogamy.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
I'm not sure. The thing is, there's a lot tied up in your relatiomship. Many people jointly own a house together or have other big financial commitments that otherwise they couldn't afford. And many *do* feel a need to align who they live with with who they sleep with.
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"many do feel a need to align who they live with with who they sleep with" seems like it's exactly my point rather than a disagreement?
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531
Maybe I just missed your point a bit?
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Replying to @chrisgardenuk @Kirsten3531
Worrying about relationship failure is perfectly natural and common, but it one is insecure one will tend to worry about anything adjacent to relationship failure too, and with monogamy a lot more things are adjacent to relationship failure so there's more to be insecure about.
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