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    1. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      My suspicion is that the correct social model for relationships is something like "everyone is poly in principle but the overwhelming majority of people are monogamous or part of a mostly closed small polycule in practice at any given time."

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    2. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      There was a... Let's call it discussion... Recently about whether "neither poly nor monogamy are better than the other" is a true statement. I think it's mostly a bad frame that conflates way too much to be answerable.

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    3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      Poly is a better system because it allows for much more freedom of movement while trying to figure things out and partial solutions where total solutions are unworkable. Monogamy and monogamy-like things are often closer to the ideal stable individual arrangement though.

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    4. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      I kinda expect personally to never settle down into a fully monogamous-like relationship, partly because I started too late, partly because I 100% never intend to have kids which removes a major driver, and partly for situational reasons, but most people aren't like me.

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    5. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      Also just because things have stabilised doesn't mean they stay stable. Even in long term stable relationships things can change in ways that mean flexibility becomes important again.

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    6. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      But on the other hand poly is often just a lot more work and there are a lot of times in your life where you really want to focus time and energy on other things.

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    7. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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      I don't really have a conclusion I'm building to, I just think pluralism and flexibility are good and putting poly and monogamy in opposition to eachother rather than as points on a spectrum isn't doing either side any favours

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    8. Kirsten‏ @Kirsten3531 Aug 23
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      I agree that putting them in opposition isn't normally helpful. Another ways it's unhelpful is that people are usually arguing against a strawman, which I think you and I have talked about before.

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    9. Kirsten‏ @Kirsten3531 Aug 23
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      I have a very dear friend who became poly because a boyfriend asked her point blank if she was attracted to other people and then got mad at her for it so she thought monogamists just weren't attached to other people?? I was like "no your boyfriend was just an idiot" 🤷🏻‍♀️

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    10. Chris in the garden‏ @chrisgardenuk Aug 23
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      Did her boyfriend find other women attractive? You make it sound like he claimed to be mono-sexual (os is that attraction to people with mono?). Seems unlikely he didn't, but some men are very insecure for some reason?

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      I do think monogamy norms tend to exacerbate that insecurity because too many perfectly normal things start to seem like threats. Although honestly there are a lot of insecure poly men too so it's far from *caused* by monogamy.

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        2. Chris in the garden‏ @chrisgardenuk Aug 23
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          I'm not sure. The thing is, there's a lot tied up in your relatiomship. Many people jointly own a house together or have other big financial commitments that otherwise they couldn't afford. And many *do* feel a need to align who they live with with who they sleep with.

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        3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 23
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          Replying to @chrisgardenuk @Kirsten3531

          "many do feel a need to align who they live with with who they sleep with" seems like it's exactly my point rather than a disagreement?

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        1. Chris in the garden‏ @chrisgardenuk Aug 23
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          Replying to @GeniesLoki @Kirsten3531

          I think the confusion I had was you talking about norms. I'm not sure it's just a matter of changing social norms about relationships without also changing lots of other things? And making our society less atomised in general so people have a wider base of support beyond romance.

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