I feel like people theorising the link between kinks and trauma often miss the point. You don't need complex theories to explain why someone is into a particular kink - it's just fun. What you need to explain is why people are stuck in a particular range of fun things.
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Related to this perhaps: I think people are hung up on the idea that kinks require some causal explanation because kinks often involve enjoying "negative" experiences and emotions, but enjoying negative emotions is entirely normal and common.
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I don't think enjoying shame in a kink context requires any more explanation than enjoying fear on a roller coaster, or rage while playing a video game. Those are just fun emotions in the right context.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
wait wait wait you *enjoy* the rage part of playing games? I see that as part of the price I must pay. As for rollercoasters, I think the adrenalin boost you get from them is pleasurable, whereas genuine fear of harm coming to me or others is not
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Replying to @leonalobster @alt_lobster
Right, I think safety in general makes it much easier to enjoy negative emotions (though I don't think it's required). RE rage: Yeah, I think so? It's similarly a safe way to let rage out, gives an adrenaline rush, and it contributes to the satisfaction of victory.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @alt_lobster
Like you know the bit where you beat part of the game which you've been struggling with and you go "HA! GOT YOU YOU BASTARD!"? That's a *highly* enjoyable way to experience rage.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki
I don't think of that as rage, just pride and smugness? The rage part is when I've been struggling on a part, nearly get there, then I get wiped out through bad luck. No good.
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Replying to @leonalobster @alt_lobster
Hmm I think there's a specific "overcoming an opponent" aspect to it that I think of as rage or at least rage-adjacent? Like there's pride/smugness directed at myself, and victorious rage directed at the game.
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Replying to @GeniesLoki @alt_lobster
But also I think the rage leading up to that point kinda heightens the experience and lends an intensity to it that it would otherwise lack.
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To me that sounds like how relief relates to fear - a nice feeling because it's a 'release' of an unpleasant one. So gloating is fun because of anger. But the original point is that it's normal to find negative feelings fun outside of kink, and I'm not sure that's the case
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I feel like the prevalence of violent video games is another data point in favour of it being normal to enjoy the anger itself in game play. I agree that release is an enjoyable aspect of it, but I think games switch between anger and release enough to be hard to separate.
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