GeniesLoki

the way i interpret your language you’re talking as if fun is an intrinsic property of activities and that doesn’t make ontological sense to me. obviously some things are fun for some people and not others and that’s exactly the phenomenon under investigation

most of the common kink stuff is stuff i would not find fun personally, i don’t find pain fun, i don’t find degradation fun in either direction, etc. in my view there’s a lot to be explained here!

Do you also feel that there's a lot to be explained about why some people are into D&D and some people are into football?

some but less?

For what it's worth, I do think it's generally not that hard to understand why any given thing is fun, and it's usually not that complicated and for reasons that generalise. Individual variation is usually more down to whether you can / it's worth it to get into it.

this is really not my experience of kink-flavored activities at all. i would find a lot of them not just unfun but slightly traumatizing to do

I think it's probably worth separating out two things: 1. There are things in this that are fun. 2. There are things in this that I actively want to avoid. The second doesn't preclude the first and I think has a lot more variation.

I feel like you're also looking at fairly extreme examples of kink? Like almost nobody jumps in at the deep end of pain and degradation kink, and there's already a lot of variation at entry level dom/sub stuff.