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    1. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      Kinda, yeah. If people get consistently called on their hypocrisy that's part of the social context, and putting together a good argument in public for why This Is Not OK removes plausible deniability and gives others who are already on side tools for promoting good behaviour.

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    2. QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)‏ @QiaochuYuan Aug 9
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      i think this basically doesn't work anymore on the internet, if it ever did. it might work with people you have existing relationships with irl. do you have any evidence that this works?

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    3. QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)‏ @QiaochuYuan Aug 9
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      QC (16/30 Do Stuff November) Retweeted QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)

      realized i can gather data on this question myselfhttps://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1292378488515649536?s=20 …

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      QC (16/30 Do Stuff November) @QiaochuYuan
      poll: has a "callout" post on social media from a stranger (e.g. a post dunking on some kind of hypocrisy that you engage in) ever motivated you to be a better person in any way?
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    4. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      This poll doesn't test what I'm claiming though? You're missing the crucial step which is the actual proposed mechanism.

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    5. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      My claim is that the mechanism is: 1. I talk about the thing. 2. Other people who are already mostly on side read it. 3. Those other people are now more likely to act usefully in situations where they have high leverage.

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    6. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      I don't expect people who are being hypocrites to read these tweets and go "Yeah I'm being a hypocrite, I'll stop". I do think people who read these tweets and go "You're right, that *is* bullshit" to be slightly more inclined and better equipped to change the social environment.

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    7. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      Also TBH even if they don't change the social environment I still think it helps to articulate why a behaviour bothers me, because I find that often other people are bothered by the same thing and haven't been able to articulate it yet.

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    8. QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)‏ @QiaochuYuan Aug 9
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      QC (16/30 Do Stuff November) Retweeted QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)

      that's a mechanism i definitely believe in!https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1140680972951666688?s=20 …

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      this is mostly the target i try to hit with my writing - articulate things people already know but don't know how to articulate, so i don't have to convince anyone of anything. distributed Gendlin focusing https://twitter.com/DRMacIver/status/1140667723711688706 …
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    9. QC (16/30 Do Stuff November)‏ @QiaochuYuan Aug 9
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      what i don't believe in is the idea that pointing out hypocrisy causes people to improve their behavior. it's a super common assumption hiding behind a lot of moralistic internet posting and i think it basically doesn't work at all for improving the behavior of strangers

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    10. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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      Yes, I'd agree that this doesn't work for improving the behaviour of strangers. I've largely given up on the idea of improving the behaviour of people who I don't know and am not already broadly on side with though.

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      Generally I assume that if a stranger doesn't already basically agree with me (or at least not disagree with me) on a subject this is the only useful mechanism I have access to because everything else is way too much work.https://twitter.com/GeniesLoki/status/1292379403620618240 …

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      My claim is that the mechanism is: 1. I talk about the thing. 2. Other people who are already mostly on side read it. 3. Those other people are now more likely to act usefully in situations where they have high leverage.
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        2. Dingle Very‏ @dinglevery Aug 9
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          So seems like: - raising awareness of subtle forms of hypocrisy is useful cause it can lead to social change at the macro level as more learn to recognize it. Less useful at the micro level. - directly pointing out the hypocrisy of an individual is not very useful at any level

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        3. GeniesLoki‏ @GeniesLoki Aug 9
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          I think directly pointing out the hypocrisy of an individual you know well can be good. I don't think dunking on strangers helps much.

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