GeniesLoki

are there assholes? of course. But if anyone told you rats are *disproportionately* assholes versus other groups, that was a gotdam lie.

TBH it's really obviously at least partly an external attack that the community was ill-prepared for, followed by a lot of people making individually rational (ha) choices to not want to be associated with the rationalist reputation.

I was never a rationalist proper in the first place, but I did notice that I needed to add increasingly careful disclaimers about sharing rationalist stuff over time.

(I do think there's an actual asshole problem in some rationalist spaces, especially SSC comment threads, but it's mostly rationalist-adjacents and even there it's closer to an asshole presence than an asshole problem per se)

the ostensible asshole problem is that neurotypicals can't deal with autist straight shooters

Ehhh. Yes, that's some of it, but I think there are some other problems in there too. I don't really want to argue the case though because I'm not that wed to my position on it and basically agree with you.

I'm not that wed to my position and mostly agree but that's the beauty of metarationality at work