then you got duped
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are there assholes? of course. But if anyone told you rats are *disproportionately* assholes versus other groups, that was a gotdam lie.
TBH it's really obviously at least partly an external attack that the community was ill-prepared for, followed by a lot of people making individually rational (ha) choices to not want to be associated with the rationalist reputation.
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I was never a rationalist proper in the first place, but I did notice that I needed to add increasingly careful disclaimers about sharing rationalist stuff over time.
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(I do think there's an actual asshole problem in some rationalist spaces, especially SSC comment threads, but it's mostly rationalist-adjacents and even there it's closer to an asshole presence than an asshole problem per se)
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Economic rationality and logical rationality are rather different things
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