@GazTheJourno Sorry for jumping to the 'you can do my homework for me' question but does this apply to Civil as well as Criminal cases?
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@Jay_Ramella Proposed Investigatory Powers Bill. Without digging it out at this hour, I would think it's both civ and crim cases.
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@GazTheJourno So what would happen if a member of the jury asked this question?This would lead to automatic assumption of "reasonable doubt" -
@GazTheJourno The jury wouldn't be able to accept any of the evidence, as there would be no chain-of-proof for the evidence. -
@billy74919063 ... assuming that the jury doesn't just ignore that, as the judge would almost certainly direct them to. -
@GazTheJourno It's one of the mechanisms that allows unjust laws to be overturned -
@GazTheJourno I used this approach myself, during jury service. :D -
@billy74919063 also been on a jury and atmosphere is very much "just do as judge tells you, nobody really understands this place" -
@GazTheJourno I read up on things years ago in civics class, as a kid in Scotland, and read up on things when i moved down here. -
@GazTheJourno The rights and duty's of jurors. Unless you're willing to become a law professional, it's the only way that UK citizens can - Show more
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@GazTheJourno much the same as long-standing treatment of informant evidence under PII cert -
@botzarelli@GazTheJourno Yeah that's an unpleasant parallel isn't it? -
@frank_fisher@GazTheJourno more manageable though- just don't deal in open court in front of jury, go in Chambers to get direction first. -
@botzarelli@GazTheJourno far too much secrecy in courts as it is. But, getting ahead of ourselves. None of this is acceptable.
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@GazTheJourno That appears to be the same exclusion of *interception* from mention or evidential use that's in s1 of RIPA. -
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@GazTheJourno@earwulf Where is that country? North Korea? -
@jvantill@GazTheJourno It's the UK… their "Investigatory Powers Bill" up for a vote soon -
@earwulf@GazTheJourno I thought it was Absurdistan
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@GazTheJourno@JohnBSouter maybe we should scrap courts altogether.. Just let state decide guilt and go straight to punishment.. -
@GazTheJourno Doubly frightening then...
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