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Gareth Corfield
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Gareth Corfield

@GazTheJourno

Reporter @TheRegister. Defence, Internet of Things, courts. Ex sub-ed. Personal musings here, not work's. Also a target shooter. gcorfield@theregister.co.uk

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    Gareth Corfield ‏@GazTheJourno 4 Nov 2015

    It will be illegal even to *ask in court* whether evidence was obtained through bulk surveillance. #snooperscharterpic.twitter.com/qCG2dWZoTP

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      1. Jay Ramella ‏@Jay_Ramella 15 Dec 2015

        @GazTheJourno Sorry for jumping to the 'you can do my homework for me' question but does this apply to Civil as well as Criminal cases?

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      2. Gareth Corfield ‏@GazTheJourno 15 Dec 2015

        @Jay_Ramella Proposed Investigatory Powers Bill. Without digging it out at this hour, I would think it's both civ and crim cases.

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      1. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 7 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno So what would happen if a member of the jury asked this question?This would lead to automatic assumption of "reasonable doubt"

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      2. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 7 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno The jury wouldn't be able to accept any of the evidence, as there would be no chain-of-proof for the evidence.

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      3. Gareth Corfield ‏@GazTheJourno 8 Dec 2016

        @billy74919063 ... assuming that the jury doesn't just ignore that, as the judge would almost certainly direct them to.

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      4. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 8 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno It's one of the mechanisms that allows unjust laws to be overturned

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      5. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 8 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno I used this approach myself, during jury service. :D

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      6. Gareth Corfield ‏@GazTheJourno 8 Dec 2016

        @billy74919063 also been on a jury and atmosphere is very much "just do as judge tells you, nobody really understands this place"

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      7. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 8 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno I read up on things years ago in civics class, as a kid in Scotland, and read up on things when i moved down here.

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      8. Billy Smith ‏@billy74919063 8 Dec 2016

        @GazTheJourno The rights and duty's of jurors. Unless you're willing to become a law professional, it's the only way that UK citizens can

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      1. AB ‏@botzarelli 4 Nov 2015

        @GazTheJourno much the same as long-standing treatment of informant evidence under PII cert

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      2. Frank Fisher ‏@frank_fisher 4 Nov 2015

        @botzarelli @GazTheJourno Yeah that's an unpleasant parallel isn't it?

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      3. AB ‏@botzarelli 4 Nov 2015

        @frank_fisher @GazTheJourno more manageable though- just don't deal in open court in front of jury, go in Chambers to get direction first.

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      4. Frank Fisher ‏@frank_fisher 4 Nov 2015

        @botzarelli @GazTheJourno far too much secrecy in courts as it is. But, getting ahead of ourselves. None of this is acceptable.

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    1. Guy Herbert ‏@guy_herbert 25 Jan 2016

      @GazTheJourno That appears to be the same exclusion of *interception* from mention or evidential use that's in s1 of RIPA.

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      1. jaap van till ‏@jvantill 4 Nov 2015

        @GazTheJourno @earwulf Where is that country? North Korea?

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      2. earwulf ‏@earwulf 4 Nov 2015

        @jvantill @GazTheJourno It's the UK… their "Investigatory Powers Bill" up for a vote soon

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      3. jaap van till ‏@jvantill 4 Nov 2015

        @earwulf @GazTheJourno I thought it was Absurdistan

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    2. Sebastien Lahtinen ‏@sebtweet 11 Nov 2015

      @GazTheJourno @JohnBSouter maybe we should scrap courts altogether.. Just let state decide guilt and go straight to punishment..

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    3. Jay Ramella ‏@Jay_Ramella 15 Dec 2015

      @GazTheJourno Doubly frightening then...

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