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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 28 Jan 2018
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    Another blunder for simple neural nets, this time in language, _exactly_ as anticipated by Marcus 2001. Sure it can be remedied but casts clear lens on a serious underlying problem that @fchollet and I have been trying to call attention to. By @bprickethttps://scholarworks.umass.edu/ics_owplinguist/2/ …

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      1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 29 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @ryandcotterell @_shrdlu_ and

        Did I not say above “sure [this particular blunder] can be remedied”? Question is how; please see discussion in my recent Medium piece re extrapolation and symbol-manipulation.

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      2. Karma Condon‏ @karmacondon 28 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @fchollet @bpricket

        You cite yourself as "Marcus 2001", even in your tweets? Wow

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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 28 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @karmacondon @fchollet @bpricket

        referring to a specific work

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      2. Joe Pater‏ @Joe_Pater 29 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @fchollet @bpricket

        Thanks for sharing Brandon's work Gary! As you may know, @_shrdlu_ and @ChrisKirov are getting impressive results with seq-to-seq modeling Albright and Hayes' past tense data. So as elsewhere, the solution is likely to modify NNs rather than abandon them.

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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 29 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @Joe_Pater @fchollet and

        Don’t know the results or the architectures; send links please

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      2. Zayd Enam‏ @zaydenam 28 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @fchollet @bpricket

        This is a red herring, "The results presented... are from a model with... ten nodes in each hidden layer." Neural networks with a small number of units do not work. Small number of units => high chance of getting stuck in local minima with first-order methods.

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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 28 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @zaydenam @fchollet @bpricket

        you are welcome to try with more hidden units with this text; for my original results, increasing number of hidden units didn’t help (even though that was a common suggestion)

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      2. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 28 Jan 2018
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @fchollet @bpricket

        The question is, how much innate structure is too much? Maybe, in this case, what is needed is not additional structure but a different approach? I have a serious problem with calls in some quarters for adding more math complexity to AGI. I don't think much math is needed.

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      3. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 28 Jan 2018
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        I should add that math in #DeepLearning (optimising an objective function) has given us a problem that brains do not have: overfitting. It is obvious that brains learn without optimisation. How do they do it? Neurons are too slow and there is little energy in the brain for math.

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